JE
Nah, its only since the Friday double was introduced it got really repetitive. Storylines went around in circles enough before but that has got worse since then. Im not "blaming" it on the scheduling, im saying in my experience I find the Friday doubles hard going, it's bad enough on the Monday but on a Friday I find it a real struggle especially going back after that half hour break.
Well what about Kieran Roberts then as Exec Producer?
Well I always thought Kieran was good when he was producer so one can only assume it's Steve doing all the hands-on work, with Kieran overseeing things and giving it his stamp of approval. I don't think any of us believe he's there everyday, working alongside Steve - especially since he's the controller of drama at ITV Productions in Manchester so he's got other things to worry about as well.
I agree the Friday double has certainly brought with it the repetitive plots and scenes and storylines with little development, but there have been other issues affecting the show since early last year. The introduction of weak, two dimensional characters, the poor structuring of storylines, the terrible execution of dramatic plots and we even had this issue of one storyline dominating and going nowhere with Ashley, Claire and Casey last year. And it's all down to Steve who really has proved he is not capable of running a massive show like Coronation Street that really needs a lot of care and attention. If you don't have a passion for the show then you might as well not bother. As far as I can tell, he simply sees it as a 'job' and when he leaves he'll just be leaving another job and moving on to a new job.
The show really needs somebody who is absolutely in love with the show and wants to make sure it is at its very best. Currently, Corrie is rife with continuity errors, plot holes, contrived situations and improbable plot devices. It's just a mess in all honesty. IMO.
For all we know Steve may not have the freedom to make decisions without Kieran overseeing? The blame cannot be laid entirely at Steve's door. Controller of ITV drama in Manchester? What other drama apart from Corrie is made in Manchester - the only other I can think of is The Street which ITV make for BBC. Most other ITV drama is made at Yorkshire or in London
Steve Frost did an excellent job at Emmerdale. The producer who took over from Steve made so many characters unlikeable.
I agree that someone who is "in love with the show" would need to be producer but the majority of fans like myself dont have experience producing tv shows so wouldnt stand a chance, as much as we'd like the job!
And as you know I absolutely love Coronation Street.
Jez
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Jez posted:
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I don't agree that Frosty sorted it out at all. Yes, it's very easy to blame it on the scheduling but the fundamental problems have been there for a long time now, and it's taken the Friday double to highlight their utter incompetency. If he was any sort of producer and if they were any sort of team then then they'd have embraced the challenge. Instead they've acted as though they don't know what they doing and what we see now is the result... Well done Steve.
Nah, its only since the Friday double was introduced it got really repetitive. Storylines went around in circles enough before but that has got worse since then. Im not "blaming" it on the scheduling, im saying in my experience I find the Friday doubles hard going, it's bad enough on the Monday but on a Friday I find it a real struggle especially going back after that half hour break.
Well what about Kieran Roberts then as Exec Producer?
Well I always thought Kieran was good when he was producer so one can only assume it's Steve doing all the hands-on work, with Kieran overseeing things and giving it his stamp of approval. I don't think any of us believe he's there everyday, working alongside Steve - especially since he's the controller of drama at ITV Productions in Manchester so he's got other things to worry about as well.
I agree the Friday double has certainly brought with it the repetitive plots and scenes and storylines with little development, but there have been other issues affecting the show since early last year. The introduction of weak, two dimensional characters, the poor structuring of storylines, the terrible execution of dramatic plots and we even had this issue of one storyline dominating and going nowhere with Ashley, Claire and Casey last year. And it's all down to Steve who really has proved he is not capable of running a massive show like Coronation Street that really needs a lot of care and attention. If you don't have a passion for the show then you might as well not bother. As far as I can tell, he simply sees it as a 'job' and when he leaves he'll just be leaving another job and moving on to a new job.
The show really needs somebody who is absolutely in love with the show and wants to make sure it is at its very best. Currently, Corrie is rife with continuity errors, plot holes, contrived situations and improbable plot devices. It's just a mess in all honesty. IMO.
For all we know Steve may not have the freedom to make decisions without Kieran overseeing? The blame cannot be laid entirely at Steve's door. Controller of ITV drama in Manchester? What other drama apart from Corrie is made in Manchester - the only other I can think of is The Street which ITV make for BBC. Most other ITV drama is made at Yorkshire or in London
Steve Frost did an excellent job at Emmerdale. The producer who took over from Steve made so many characters unlikeable.
I agree that someone who is "in love with the show" would need to be producer but the majority of fans like myself dont have experience producing tv shows so wouldnt stand a chance, as much as we'd like the job!