Coronation Street

Couldnt have put it better myself, Andrew

Personally I never read spoilers in great depth before the episode has gone out, I might scan them just to have a rough idea of what is going on - but a scene by scene description with pictures which you can get off the ITV site? I read one once and it totally ruined the episode for me so ive never read them since.

Id love it if we could be totally spoiler free, but thats almost impossible when listings mags and newpapers have spoilers every week. However even reading the soap guides in the tv mags, they usually concentrate on 1 or 2 storylines so dont spoil my enjoyment totally so I dont mind it. e.g last week the mags had Tracy and Charlie all over them saying the police were called- but we didnt get a blow by blow account of what happened, it was just a brief outline of the stoyline with one or two pics and i can live with that.

As for this thread - well Pad you have asked me to made a decision so I will. And if some people are not happy having spoilers without the tags im afraid we will have to, in future, put spoiler tags for all discussion of upcoming storylines.



Yes I bet there is. They usually have a big birthday bash every year. They do film on Sunday's I believe and have a Saturday off.

No matter how irritating you find Norris, you couldn't help but feel sorry for him when he was arrested himself after catching the graffiti artist.

Recently, some young lads who'd been causing trouble for over a year finally pushed me too far then as I drove home, Devon and Cornwall's finest blockaded me Sweeney-style and bundled me into the back of a police car. I was not arrested (the boys were known troublemakers), the experience was nevertheless traumatic and has left me disillusioned with the police.

Norris' storyline was clearly played for laughs but will have struck a chord with the many others who acted in good faith but instead fell foul of politically correct police. Then to have gobby Amber berate Norris for his actions showed how today's youth are too aware of their rights and use this to their advantage.

I agree - it's seems to plague society today, people just getting away with things all over the place, yet the "law abiding" folk seem to take all the sh*t instead.

Rant over!

I only caught Weds & Fri's shows on the omnibus today - I loved the Emily / Milk Tray scene, and then Norris making sure he paid for the midget gems he took from the shop!

Considering the number of similar incidents I've read about in the papers, I never thought I'd end up being involved in one myself. Something in me snapped but I didn't hit the yobs (nor had I any intention of doing so).

I liked the way Rita and Emily had a go at Ryan. It's unrealistic that they haven't been supporting Norris before this.

I'm not clear on how you ended up being lifted by the police if you didn't raise your hands to the yobs.

In any event, I have sympathy for your situation, and have found myself in a similar position.

I decided it was time to tell a group of binge drinkers to clear out of my street, having suffered them for weeks. I ended up in A&E after a beer bottle was broken over my head.

If anything, Norris' experience may have tought a few folk not to try and deal with trouble on their own. Phone 999 and stay well out of it.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with being "politically correct" - the most overused (and all too often innaccurate) phrase I think I have ever heard - but it has everything to do with common sense.

By all means, sit at your window with a video camera equipped with night vision, but don't try to be a hero.

Sorry to hear about your incident Gavin. The case against 24-hour drinking if there was one.

I'm not normally the have-a-go type; on that day I just lost my cool. While I didn't actually hit them, I did grab hold of their clothing but intended to do nothing more than pin them against the wall and give them a good talking-to. I knew what would happen if my fists had done the talking. Unfortunately, some do-gooder Geordie woman got involved, wasn't interested in anything I had to say and called the police.

In relation to your assault, what makes me more angry is that last night my brother had seven bells kicked out of him in town - he was minding his own business, yet the police didn't want to know.

If you want to know why I read the Daily Mail, it is not for reasons of xenophobia, homophobia or all the other charges laid against the paper's readership, it's because it often features stories of incidents similar to yours and mine, and its ideology for common sense to be exercised in such cases.

I know you're not the "have a go" type. I wouldn't dream of suggesting such a thing.

But you see, neither am I. Our scenarios are not dissimilar.

I only intended to explain why I was aggreived, but it escalated so quickly there was nothing I could do to stop it.

I suppose you can be moderately grateful you only had to suffer the inconvenience of being in custody for a time. I had my scalp held together with steri-strips and a bloodshot eye just days before a television appearance. Took a lot of explaining, I can tell you.

I had no right to attempt to "discipline" the offenders any more than you.

Neither you or I had success taking matters into our own hands - neither did Norris.

Credit to the Corrie writers for giving it a touch of reality.

That society has gone this way is still very sad. We both shouldn't have taken matters into our own hands but the law seems weighted too much in the assailant's favour.

I have every sympathy for teachers/youth workers etc. (especially the former) who are leaving their profession in droves because their hands are tied in disciplinary matters - or vindictive youngsters know how easy it is to bring down their teachers. During my time in secondary school, there were always a few teachers on long-term sick leave at any one time - including the headmaster.

Corrie was right to draw attention to these issues. Will Norris's story fuel new debate on victims' rights or prompt a change of thinking at government level? Sadly I doubt it.

I think it's a common misapprehension that laws are weighted in the favour of law-breakers. They aren't, of course. It it is simply the case that they are afforded the same rights as you or I. Galling though it may be, that includes the right not to be man-handled in the street (or pinned against the wall) by a perfect stranger.

If I've learned anything from my experience, it is to leave policing to the police. They're heavier handed than I could hope to be.

We've both managed up til now to incorporate this little side discussion into the Corrie thread, but I've run out of Norris analogies.

So, er.. go Corrie!

I have a simlar problem at work in a primary school, had to physically hold a child by the arm the other day in order to tell her off for kicking me, and she was in reception, if I hadn't have held her arm she'd have run off.

anyway back to corry, I think we need to use the spoilers if we know something In advance of the programme, like when I saw them filming Smichael being run over by Claire, in that instance I kept it to myself until it was due for tansmitions then said I'd seen them film it.

pretty good episode last night although the Christening was a bit short lived, I thought we'd see Eileen baptised as well.

Sorry to hear about your ordeal, really some people can be so utterly abhorrent. The current storyline with Norris has been a bit of light comedy but as others have mentioned, it has a deeper meaning and you could thoroughly empathise with him when he complained about how times have changed. Certainly, Rita saying, 'the world's different now Norris, you can't give them a clip round the ear anymore' was very true. The political correctness angle is debateable, but if anything Corrie writers are writing it in a style against PC.

Anyway, has the Christmas RadioTimes come out in anyone's area yet? If you've got it, would you mind posting the writer for the Christmas Day hour-special?