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David_02
BBCNicky@Yorks posted:
Just remembered - Fred's last words. Did he not say "Be happy", to Audrey, or am I wrong?


His last words, were "Be happy, I say, be happy".

Naturally the I say would be his last words, and I do think they were the best last words a character like Fred could have. It summed him up really, always caring about everybody else. I guess that's why I'll miss Fred more than Mike. I always found him quite a sympathetic character. John will be missed, he's a brilliant actor.

Personally I don't agree with the negative comments at all. I think the way it was done was best. It didn't need to be OTT with camera panning, screen fading to black etc. This isn't a film. It retained the drama as well as that sense of realism. I guess we didn't see his death due to it probably being difficult for John to act it out, but I think it was much better for us to 'hear' the death, rather than 'see' it. Added to the drama.

Once again we also got a lot of the humour from the characters in the church, especially the scenes with Norris and Blanche desperately trying to find out what was going on.

"There's been a delay"

"Well I know there's been a delay, I could have worked that out for myself."

Laughing
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A former member
Brekkie Boy posted:
Ken Baldwin!


Laughing Laughing
RO
rocksols
I thought his death was done well.
JE
Jez Founding member
Spencer For Hire posted:
It's not often that continuity errors and the like bother me, but last night, I actually found myself distracted by various sloppy errors.

Surely it wasn't just me who noticed the constant switching between bright sunshine and heavy cloud in the outdoor scenes.

Then there was the 'Champagne' breakfast, with the world's flattest champagne ever - there wasn't a single bubble in those glasses. Did the props man forget to bring the Alka-Selzer tablets for the bottom of the glasses?

And I know it was a minor thing, but in days gone by they'd have re-shot the scene where Fred was talking to Ashley outside the church so that big drip didn't land on his shoulder half-way through. I thought a bird had dropped a present on him for a moment.

That said, there were some good moments in the episode. I particularly liked the Chinese whispers going on in the church as to what was going on outside... although I am now craving a happy wedding in Corrie. I'm surprised anyone in Wetherfield bothers turning up these days given the lack of people getting married at them.


I didnt notice any of those errors so will look out for them if I decide to watch the repeat.

Yes its a bit OTT this being the 3rd wedding that hasnt gone ahead in the last 13 months (and 2nd in only 2 months)
JE
Jez Founding member
02cashindavid posted:
BBCNicky@Yorks posted:
Just remembered - Fred's last words. Did he not say "Be happy", to Audrey, or am I wrong?


His last words, were "Be happy, I say, be happy".

Naturally the I say would be his last words, and I do think they were the best last words a character like Fred could have. It summed him up really, always caring about everybody else. I guess that's why I'll miss Fred more than Mike. I always found him quite a sympathetic character. John will be missed, he's a brilliant actor.

Personally I don't agree with the negative comments at all. I think the way it was done was best. It didn't need to be OTT with camera panning, screen fading to black etc. This isn't a film. It retained the drama as well as that sense of realism. I guess we didn't see his death due to it probably being difficult for John to act it out, but I think it was much better for us to 'hear' the death, rather than 'see' it. Added to the drama.

Once again we also got a lot of the humour from the characters in the church, especially the scenes with Norris and Blanche desperately trying to find out what was going on.

"There's been a delay"

"Well I know there's been a delay, I could have worked that out for myself."

Laughing


Wasnt it Reet who said there's been a delay? I noticed at the stag/hen party in the Rovers Reet made a toast to the happy couple and repeated herself like Fred always did, although I felt that little joke fell flat.

I agree the episodes were good, it would have been too OTT if he had died at the church in front of everyone.
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tvarksouthwest
Why did Fred have to be killed off?

Oh of course - because John Savident dared to criticise the production and the use of inexperienced young actors in the series. When will actors get protection from expressing their views?

A big mistake I think, Fred has been one of the reasons to watch over the last 12 years. If John wanted to go, fine, the door should have been left open.
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Andrew Founding member
Has it been mentioned that 11 million viewers tuned in last night to watch Fred's demise. That was a 51% share

Later at 8.30, 10.7m tuned in which was a 44% share

Only 9m watched EastEnders
DA
David_02
Andrew posted:
Has it been mentioned that 11 million viewers tuned in last night to watch Fred's demise. That was a 51% share

Later at 8.30, 10.7m tuned in which was a 44% share

Only 9m watched EastEnders


Considering the first episode last week managed around 10.3 million viewers, it was nice to see huge leap for Fred's death, and to see both episodes beat that. Over 50% of the audience is just incredible, and these days I believe Coronation Street is the only show on television which manages that - although not on a regular basis, it has done it quite a few times recently.

And to see Corrie 2 million ahead of EastEnders, well, who'd expect anything less?

tvarksouthwest posted:
Why did Fred have to be killed off?

Oh of course - because John Savident dared to criticise the production and the use of inexperienced young actors in the series. When will actors get protection from expressing their views?

A big mistake I think, Fred has been one of the reasons to watch over the last 12 years. If John wanted to go, fine, the door should have been left open.


If that's the reason why, then that's sad. Such a great character who has many fans, maybe the door should have been left open. I can't say I disagree with his comments, he commented on the extra episodes, and I agree that they are ridiculous. But that's down to ITV, rather than the producers.
JE
Jez Founding member
tvarksouthwest posted:
Why did Fred have to be killed off?

Oh of course - because John Savident dared to criticise the production and the use of inexperienced young actors in the series. When will actors get protection from expressing their views?

A big mistake I think, Fred has been one of the reasons to watch over the last 12 years. If John wanted to go, fine, the door should have been left open.


I agree with what he said about there being too many episodes a week, however I am wondering if it was really because of that he left. Bill Roache has also made comments about the amount of episodes but he is still there.
DA
David_02
Jez posted:
tvarksouthwest posted:
Why did Fred have to be killed off?

Oh of course - because John Savident dared to criticise the production and the use of inexperienced young actors in the series. When will actors get protection from expressing their views?

A big mistake I think, Fred has been one of the reasons to watch over the last 12 years. If John wanted to go, fine, the door should have been left open.



I agree with what he said about there being too many episodes a week, however I am wondering if it was really because of that he left. Bill Roache has also made comments about the amount of episodes but he is still there.


In fact, Bill Roache has criticised the show quite a few times, not just about the number of episodes. Maybe he had a disagreement with the producers. I'd hate it if he left on bad terms with the producers. Sad
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Roger Mellie
02cashindavid posted:


Considering the first episode last week managed around 10.3 million viewers, it was nice to see huge leap for Fred's death, and to see both episodes beat that. Over 50% of the audience is just incredible, and these days I believe Coronation Street is the only show on television which manages that - although not on a regular basis, it has done it quite a few times recently.



It is incredible, but not surprising. Coro is the cream of British TV-- an institution. It has the perfect mix of drama, characters, warmth and humour.

As for EastEnders <spits>.... dire acting, plots, indentikit characters and little in way of humour. Even the pantomime that is E'dale is beating it frequently Wink
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Freeview
I can't believe it got 11m... (Mon, 7.30pm).!!! Great news for ITV, as they need it to boost their ratings! More information here:BBC News

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