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Big week of storylines and Corrie in HD from Monday (February 2004)

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JE
Jez Founding member
Pootle5 posted:
CPFC posted:
Pootle5 posted:
Jez posted:
I still think the quality of the show suffers on a Monday due to the hour, unless it has a really big storyline like the wedding or the bigamy storyline etc, ITV use shows like Corrie and Emmerdale because the are guaranteed high ratings but nearly 2 million people who watched the 7.30pm show didnt bother watching at 8.30pm


I agree Jez. I actually find it annoying that it takes up the whole night now - I suppose I could video the second episode and watch it some other time - but the quality is definately suffering as a result, with stretched out storylines and the obvious crow-barring of cliff hangers into the 7.30 episode to conclude at 8.30, it is getting as desperate as Neighbours for episode cliff hangers. Even the recent fire was a huge let down, what should have been a major Corrie disaster just felt like another plot device to provide a cliff hanger. Is this now a permanent arrangement for Mondays?


Where's the evidence to say the quality is suffering?


I gave the example of the fire for a start, and there's been a host of drawn out minor plots which could have been cleared up in one scene, but sometimes it feels like scenes are a rehash of a previous one - the story didn't move along. Crossroads was guilty of it in the 80s. In my opinion, having watched Corrie for as long as I can remember from sometime in the mid-1970s, I consider that 5 episodes a week is stretching things too far, and as a result, quality overall is going down. There are still some great moments, but just a bit too much padding at times.


I agree with that, its still my fave show and ive watched it since the Mid 1980s, but the last couple of Monday doubles have been one long yawn, the cliffhangera at the end of the 7.30pm episode are often very weak so im not suprised up to 2 million people cant be bothered to rejoin the show at 8.30pm, its the same with Emmerdale, we have it on a Sunday night - why? when its already on every weeknight, its going to make people sick of watching soaps with them on so often on ITV, unfortunately ITV have been showing the extra Emmerdale and Corrie episodes for so long now its unlikely they will decrease it.

Yes in the 70s and 80s they only had 2 episodes of Corrie, increasing to 3 a week in 1989, it got high ratings and yet they didnt see the need to show a double bill then so I dont see why they should now.
JE
Jez Founding member
it was reported in the Daily Star today that a scene featuring KArl and Todd "romping" in bed has been cut as ITV fear lots of complaints if it goes out at 7.30pm.

Apparently all we will see is Todd putting his shoes on afterwards and we will be left in no doubt what they have been up to.
SA
salceyboy
I suspect we were never going to see Karl and Todd romping on ITV at 1930hrs. I expect the Star invented the romp scene so they could claim victory in their campaign to have the scene cut.
SE
Square Eyes Founding member
Jez posted:

Yes in the 70s and 80s they only had 2 episodes of Corrie, increasing to 3 a week in 1989, it got high ratings and yet they didnt see the need to show a double bill then so I dont see why they should now.


It's because ITV1 is in a fierce ratings battle with the aggressively commercialised BBC One. So, ITV bring out the big guns, to bring back some of the audience that might otherwise be lost to the BBC following Eastenders on a Monday night. This wasn't the case in the 70's or 80's.
Although I'm not sure why Monday is more important to ITV than any other night that Eastenders is on, probably due to the later start time on a Monday.

I agree that Emmerdale on a Sunday is utterly pointless though, 5 days a week is enough for anyone.
JE
Jez Founding member
Square Eyes posted:
Jez posted:

Yes in the 70s and 80s they only had 2 episodes of Corrie, increasing to 3 a week in 1989, it got high ratings and yet they didnt see the need to show a double bill then so I dont see why they should now.


It's because ITV1 is in a fierce ratings battle with the aggressively commercialised BBC One. So, ITV bring out the big guns, to bring back some of the audience that might otherwise be lost to the BBC following Eastenders on a Monday night. This wasn't the case in the 70's or 80's.
Although I'm not sure why Monday is more important to ITV than any other night that Eastenders is on, probably due to the later start time on a Monday.

I agree that Emmerdale on a Sunday is utterly pointless though, 5 days a week is enough for anyone.


I totally agree with all that, I understand ITV's motives for doing it, im just getting fed up of storylines being watered down on a Monday, its unsuals for me to get bored watching Corrie but I did on Monday, I also tend to enjoy a Wednesday or Friday episode, for example, more than I do the Monday double episode.

I feel that Emmerdale storylines have improved recently but it is still on too much, the cast and crew must be exhausted filming so many episodes each week.

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I suspect we were never going to see Karl and Todd romping on ITV at 1930hrs. I expect the Star invented the romp scene so they could claim victory in their campaign to have the scene cut.


Wouldnt suprise me in the least if they were lying, as if anyone would want to see the turd and Karl romping anyway Laughing
OH
ohwhatanight Founding member
It appears that Monday is 'the new' Saturday night!

Ratings on a Saturday night have plummetted over the last few years where people are going out and enjoying themselves either at the cinema, pub or restaurants (etc) Whereas Monday night is now deemed a 'safe' night where most viewers will be staying in and watching the box.

Therefore Monday night is now one of the most valueable night's viewing - followed by a Sunday! Hence extra episodes of the soaps on these nights!
LU
Luke
Jez posted:
I totally agree with all that, I understand ITV's motives for doing it, im just getting fed up of storylines being watered down on a Monday


I've been saying that for ages on this thread. It's about ratings FGS. Rolling Eyes Obviously i'm not as succinct as SE.
JE
Jez Founding member
CPFC posted:
Jez posted:
I totally agree with all that, I understand ITV's motives for doing it, im just getting fed up of storylines being watered down on a Monday


I've been saying that for ages on this thread. It's about ratings FGS. Rolling Eyes Obviously i'm not as succinct as SE.


I am well aware of why ITV are doing it, its clearly for ratings, what im saying is that I dont agree with it being watered down and dragged out, what if people get fed up of watching soaps? What will ITV do then?

And I was out on Monday night and watched the double bill late at night when I was in bed and I was practically falling asleep it was that boring!
TI
This Is Granada
Jez posted:
CPFC posted:
Jez posted:
I totally agree with all that, I understand ITV's motives for doing it, im just getting fed up of storylines being watered down on a Monday


I've been saying that for ages on this thread. It's about ratings FGS. Rolling Eyes Obviously i'm not as succinct as SE.


I am well aware of why ITV are doing it, its clearly for ratings, what im saying is that I dont agree with it being watered down and dragged out, what if people get fed up of watching soaps? What will ITV do then?

And I was out on Monday night and watched the double bill late at night when I was in bed and I was practically falling asleep it was that boring!


Good God, Jez saying Corrie's "Boring", Thought I would never hear the day he would say that!

Anyway I don’t find it too bad at the mo. I would rather Double Street instead of c**p Fridays with 2 hours of Morse, and all the other boring 2 hour old c*ap ITV have on.

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what if people get fed up of watching soaps? What will ITV do then?

Simple, The planets funniest animals, Fat Shaun and the 24 hour quiz & 'Lisa Riley and those flippin bubbles' episodes of You've been framed!
Won’t be long before folk are crying for Corrie, Emmerdale and all that carryon back!
JE
Jez Founding member
This Is Granada posted:
Jez posted:
CPFC posted:
Jez posted:
I totally agree with all that, I understand ITV's motives for doing it, im just getting fed up of storylines being watered down on a Monday


I've been saying that for ages on this thread. It's about ratings FGS. Rolling Eyes Obviously i'm not as succinct as SE.


I am well aware of why ITV are doing it, its clearly for ratings, what im saying is that I dont agree with it being watered down and dragged out, what if people get fed up of watching soaps? What will ITV do then?

And I was out on Monday night and watched the double bill late at night when I was in bed and I was practically falling asleep it was that boring!


Good God, Jez saying Corrie's "Boring", Thought I would never hear the day he would say that!

Anyway I don’t find it too bad at the mo. I would rather Double Street instead of c**p Fridays with 2 hours of Morse, and all the other boring 2 hour old c*ap ITV have on.

Quote:
what if people get fed up of watching soaps? What will ITV do then?

Simple, The planets funniest animals, Fat Shaun and the 24 hour quiz & 'Lisa Riley and those flippin bubbles' episodes of You've been framed!
Won’t be long before folk are crying for Corrie, Emmerdale and all that carryon back!


This is Granada - its not often ive found Corrie boring but on Monday they showed in an hour stuff that could just have easily fitted into a normal episode, they watered it down and dragged it out so much I was fighting to stay awake. However, it is still my fave show, but its not always possible to enjoy each and every episode, in a long running series like Corrie there are bound to be times when it gets a bit boring.

Tonights episode was MUCH better, it had Blanche and Tracy back in it which was good and the stuff with Fred/Penny was good.

Anyway next week Jason makes a pass at Gail which should be quite amusing LOL

http://www.corrie.net/kabin/5731b.jpg
TI
This Is Granada
Lord look at Gail's nose. You could get one of those little metal hammers that you crack toffee with and crack her nose too. Laughing

Yeah, Corrie does get boring at times, I have found myself in the past not watching it for weeks, then getting back in to it, then off it etc

Oh and as for Robbie well I hate him. How could Karl could find that ugly 'obviously straight and hates fags in real life' bloke attractive. Those cheep looking chocolate's old battle axe Hunt bought in the corner shop have more appeal to them that that man ever will!
PO
Pootle5
Jez posted:
CPFC posted:
Jez posted:
I totally agree with all that, I understand ITV's motives for doing it, im just getting fed up of storylines being watered down on a Monday


I've been saying that for ages on this thread. It's about ratings FGS. Rolling Eyes Obviously i'm not as succinct as SE.


I am well aware of why ITV are doing it, its clearly for ratings, what im saying is that I dont agree with it being watered down and dragged out, what if people get fed up of watching soaps? What will ITV do then?

And I was out on Monday night and watched the double bill late at night when I was in bed and I was practically falling asleep it was that boring!

You've hit the nail on the head Jez, I couldn't agree with you more!

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