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Costa & Coop p68: Repeats on ITV3: Are there too many spoilers? (June 2016)

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JW
JamesWorldNews
Away from ITV, I’m passing some time in lockdown by catching up with classic Corrie on YouTube. I’ve just reached the episode where Tanya Pooley exits.

Having been reminded by what some of you have said before, despite being in the show for a very short period of time, Tanya made a big impact and is still remembered today as one of the iconic baddies. I didn’t care much for her character back at the time (I think I was disinterested by the Charlie Phelan character who was a bore and bad actor IMO), but having rewatched the episodes now from a fresh perspective, Eva Pope carried the role off beautifully.

Also around this time, Julie Goodyear delivered some stunning scenes. Very impressed by some of her output.
JE
Jez Founding member
I was very impressed by Julie Goodyear after watching the ITV3 episodes. She truly was a Corrie icon. Tanya was brilliant as well.

Next week we should be seeing the first proper 1 hour Christmas Day episode (1995) which correct me if im wrong has been a 1 hour every Christmas since.
CO
cobbles
Julie Goodyear was always a fantastic actress I haven't been keeping up with the ITV3 re-runs but watched some of the 70s episodes a few years ago and was surprised at just how many of the actors could really carry their material - which seems a rarity in much of today's cast. Still clamouring for a repeat from the beginning or them being uploaded to a stream service, but it seems as it will never happen now. If I ever won the lottery I'd be setting up a TV channel and trying to buy the rights to them and a load of other soaps..... Laughing


I'm interested in the direction this Carla story goes, it seems fairly obvious she either sold drugs or sold her body when she was on the streets and Chelsey's connections seem worth exploring...
CO
cobbles
It's getting on for two years since Phelan left and it's hard to see Gary as a serious serial killer. I think it would be real nice for the show to bring a properly dark villain to try and get rid of some of the less necessary characters. Corrie Serial killers always seem to be a bit pantomineish, I really want to see one who stalks their victims, deliberately gets close to them, perhaps even abuses them before killing them but manages to stick around for 4-5 years and make a lot of the deaths look like accidents only to finally be unveiled as a demented serial killer in an explosive week of hour long episodes (BGT week 2025?) where one of his survivors finally meets another of his survivors and they go to the police to finally get him locked up behind bars.







The character should be a pensioner in his early 70s. Let's call him Timothy Southwark. He should be a former history teacher who has a macabre obsession with war as well as with death, keeping a small collection of historic knives in his house as ornaments and a long line of periodicals dealing with contemporary murders from the past few hundred years in files in his basement. He should be naturally charismatic and able to charm the ladies and the men into becoming friendly with him both romantically and plutonically - in a sort of helpful old neighbour kind of way. The kind of person streets residents start turning to for advise when **** hits the fan - allowing him to work out what someones triggers are to manipulate them and where he might find them alone to stage the accidents/deaths.



Obviously old Southwark would get a life sentence at the end of this all and kill himself in his cell. Preferred actor Alun Armstrong.







His hit-list should be....



Kevin Webster

Carla Connor

Johnny Connor

Dev Alahan

Kirk Sutherland

Fiz Brown

Faye Windass

Gary Windass

Geoff Metcalfe

Craig Tinker

Gemma Winter

Liz McDonald

Nick Tilsey

Gail Platt

Leanne Battersby

Sean Tully

Billy Mayhew

Michael Bailey

Clayton Hibbs

Roy Cropper

Ken Barlow

Rita Tanner

Nick Tilsey

Jenny Bradley

David Platt

Daniel Osbourne

Eileen Grimshaw




Obviously with so many characters dying it would free up some room for some new families:



A gay couple with foster kids

A lesbian couple

A couple in a consensual bigamous relationship.

A couple of drug dealers living in a house share.

A successful business man of the Baldwin archetype.

A few more families with kids and grandkids living under one roof.

A night-club owner

Some characters with lifelong illnesses that are treat seriously.

What does everyone think about time Corrie got a supervillain?
CH
chris
Wow.
CO
cobbles
chris posted:
Wow.


I just really want to see Corrie take a gritty and long term approach to serial killer storylines.

Gary does nothing for me, Phelan was okay at times but far far too pantominish in nature, it just be nice to have a new character with no history who comes in and is unashamedly evil as well as managing to clear out a lot of characters who are long past their sell by dates with such a story.
BR
Brekkie
Serial killers are such a lazy story, especially when most soap streets have one every other year. If they need to cull a few cast members how about do something a bit more original - far fetched I know but perhaps they could become victim to a deadly global pandemic.
Soupnzi, chevron and Jon gave kudos
CO
cobbles
Serial killers are such a lazy story, especially when most soap streets have one every other year. If they need to cull a few cast members how about do something a bit more original - far fetched I know but perhaps they could become victim to a deadly global pandemic.


Serial killers are only lazy if they aren't given a dynamic to them and only kill a few characters. One that kills a few dozen characters over a 5 year story arc and lives in the street would not be lazy. It would require an immense amount of writing an acting talent.
CO
cobbles
Serial killers are such a lazy story, especially when most soap streets have one every other year. If they need to cull a few cast members how about do something a bit more original - far fetched I know but perhaps they could become victim to a deadly global pandemic.


Serial killers are only lazy if they aren't given a dynamic to them and only kill a few characters. One that kills a few dozen characters over a 5 year story arc and lives in the street would not be lazy. It would require an immense amount of writing an acting talent.
DW
DavidWhitfield
Serial killers are only lazy if they aren't given a dynamic to them and only kill a few characters. One that kills a few dozen characters over a 5 year story arc and lives in the street would not be lazy. It would require an immense amount of writing an acting talent.


You want them to kill off "a few dozen characters"? At least your version of Coronation Street would be cheap to make... largely owing to the fact that there'd be no actors left to pay.
JE
Jez Founding member
I love the Carla storyline too, she is definitely one of the best characters introduced since the 2000s. Hard to believe she has been there nearly 14 years on and off. Bur she is definitely a modern Corrie legend. I also like how she has mellowed in recent years. Alison King is a fantastic actress.

As for serial killers, some are better than others but its getting boring now and they need some new ideas I think.

I wonder long term if they may consider killing off a character because of the pandemic. We know its going to be mentioned in Corrie from July.
Last edited by Jez on 16 June 2020 10:46pm
DJ
DJ Dave
It's getting on for two years since Phelan left and it's hard to see Gary as a serious serial killer. I think it would be real nice for the show to bring a properly dark villain to try and get rid of some of the less necessary characters. Corrie Serial killers always seem to be a bit pantomineish, I really want to see one who stalks their victims, deliberately gets close to them, perhaps even abuses them before killing them but manages to stick around for 4-5 years and make a lot of the deaths look like accidents only to finally be unveiled as a demented serial killer in an explosive week of hour long episodes (BGT week 2025?) where one of his survivors finally meets another of his survivors and they go to the police to finally get him locked up behind bars.







The character should be a pensioner in his early 70s. Let's call him Timothy Southwark. He should be a former history teacher who has a macabre obsession with war as well as with death, keeping a small collection of historic knives in his house as ornaments and a long line of periodicals dealing with contemporary murders from the past few hundred years in files in his basement. He should be naturally charismatic and able to charm the ladies and the men into becoming friendly with him both romantically and plutonically - in a sort of helpful old neighbour kind of way. The kind of person streets residents start turning to for advise when **** hits the fan - allowing him to work out what someones triggers are to manipulate them and where he might find them alone to stage the accidents/deaths.



Obviously old Southwark would get a life sentence at the end of this all and kill himself in his cell. Preferred actor Alun Armstrong.







His hit-list should be....



Kevin Webster

Carla Connor

Johnny Connor

Dev Alahan

Kirk Sutherland

Fiz Brown

Faye Windass

Gary Windass

Geoff Metcalfe

Craig Tinker

Gemma Winter

Liz McDonald

Nick Tilsey

Gail Platt

Leanne Battersby

Sean Tully

Billy Mayhew

Michael Bailey

Clayton Hibbs

Roy Cropper

Ken Barlow

Rita Tanner

Nick Tilsey

Jenny Bradley

David Platt

Daniel Osbourne

Eileen Grimshaw




Obviously with so many characters dying it would free up some room for some new families:



A gay couple with foster kids

A lesbian couple

A couple in a consensual bigamous relationship.

A couple of drug dealers living in a house share.

A successful business man of the Baldwin archetype.

A few more families with kids and grandkids living under one roof.

A night-club owner

Some characters with lifelong illnesses that are treat seriously.

What does everyone think about time Corrie got a supervillain?

are you planning on leaving any of the cast left?

and I'm sorry but Sean and Izzy don't seem to have made the list??? I actually like Johnny and Jenny running the rovers.

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