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noggin14,679 posts since 26 Jun 2001
And the boom mic is in again!

Right in the shot or because there's no overscan on these showings?


Overscan is really a function of the display you are watching on, not of the way the programme is shown.

Chances are that modern displays are less overscanned or not overscanned at all (I've disabled overscan on our TV entirely - but by default most flat panels simulate a small amount of overscan still) - so things that would have been hidden by significant overscan on most TVs when the episodes were recorded and not seen by most viewers, are more likely to be seen these days.

(However in many cases they may well have been seen on even overscanned TVs and just left in on the basis 'Joe Public never clocks a damn thing')
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Markymark7,466 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
And the boom mic is in again!

Right in the shot or because there's no overscan on these showings?


Overscan is really a function of the display you are watching on, not of the way the programme is shown.

Chances are that modern displays are less overscanned or not overscanned at all (I've disabled overscan on our TV entirely - but by default most flat panels simulate a small amount of overscan still) - so things that would have been hidden by significant overscan on most TVs when the episodes were recorded and not seen by most viewers, are more likely to be seen these days.

(However in many cases they may well have been seen on even overscanned TVs and just left in on the basis 'Joe Public never clocks a damn thing')


I have overscan switched off on my TV, but it only seems to apply to native HD resolution, SD channels (from both the internal tuner, and PVR), are overscanned regardless. That will be a feature of the TV's internal upscaler.
noggin14,679 posts since 26 Jun 2001
Right in the shot or because there's no overscan on these showings?


Overscan is really a function of the display you are watching on, not of the way the programme is shown.

Chances are that modern displays are less overscanned or not overscanned at all (I've disabled overscan on our TV entirely - but by default most flat panels simulate a small amount of overscan still) - so things that would have been hidden by significant overscan on most TVs when the episodes were recorded and not seen by most viewers, are more likely to be seen these days.

(However in many cases they may well have been seen on even overscanned TVs and just left in on the basis 'Joe Public never clocks a damn thing')


I have overscan switched off on my TV, but it only seems to apply to native HD resolution, SD channels (from both the internal tuner, and PVR), are overscanned regardless. That will be a feature of the TV's internal upscaler.


Yes - some flat panel TVs only allow overscan simulation to be removed when fed their native resolutions, others allow it at all resolutions. (Some don't allow it to be disabled at all)
harshy6,310 posts since 24 Mar 2001
Yeah when I was a kid (this will sound strange) but I was always fascinated with those square wipes and then as the picture got closer you used to lose the tops and bottoms and left and rights of the picture of course at the time I didn’t realise it was down to overscan lol Laughing
JamesWorldNews8,508 posts since 22 Aug 2004
STV Central BBC World News
In that era (late seventies/early eighties), did the end credits always play over a plain black background when a particular character or actor had made their final ever appearance in that episode?

I’ve just watched the episode where Bert Tilsley (actor Peter Dudley) went missing from home, whilst babysitting young Nick Tilsley, never to be seen again.

Just curious.

Coming-up shortly to Uncle Albert’s 88th Birthday Party!
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JamesWorldNews8,508 posts since 22 Aug 2004
STV Central BBC World News
I've still seen boom mics occasionally, even in the 90s episodes!

Also in some late 60s episodes, after they first moved to the outdoor set, sometimes the camera pans up a bit too far and you can see there's no roofs on the houses.


Was it still filmed and broadcast “LIVE” in those days? In fact, when was Coronation Street no longer shown LIVE?
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james-20015,617 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today
It was only the first few weeks the show was on air that it was live. And then it was only every other episode- the Friday episode was live, then the Wednesday episode was recorded straight after. A few weeks in, there was a strike which stopped them being able to put the Friday episode out, but they were still able to make it, so it was recorded and went out the following Wednesday, and the episode that should have went out on Wednesday went out on Friday. After that, there wasn't another live episode until the 40th birthday in 2000.

The show was recorded as live for a long, long time though, as was pretty much every other videotaped studio show at the time, videotape editing wasn't easy for quite a long time. Has a lot to do with why the aformentioned clip of Pat Phoenix being hit by the camera was left in, the only other option was stopping it entirely and starting again.
davidhorman2,274 posts since 8 Mar 2005
Channel Channel Islands

I have overscan switched off on my TV, but it only seems to apply to native HD resolution, SD channels (from both the internal tuner, and PVR), are overscanned regardless. That will be a feature of the TV's internal upscaler.


That's for two reasons: firstly disabling overscan is so you can get a 1:1 correspondence between video pixels and TV pixels, which gives a slightly sharper image, which won't happen with an SD source anyway so there's not much point in it. Secondly SD sources should be treated as if they have nominal analogue blanking to get the aspect ratio right, which necessarily means cropping the left and right (and top and bottom sometimes have partial lines which are never meant to be displayed either).