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davidhorman2,235 posts since 8 Mar 2005
Channel Channel Islands

They should use it more often.


I don't know about that - personally I think they should either use it all the time or not at all, otherwise it's just the cheapest "ooh look we're being different and expensive" gimmick there is. Going for a different editing style and shooting with more interesting camera angles and motions works better, I think (which they also did tonight).
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BM11976 posts since 2 Jun 2017
London London
Film effect and high contrast on tonight's Coronation Street, as they're showing things from Carla's point of view as she suffers a psychotic episode.

Only problem is the film effect continued on scenes not featuring Carla.
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james-20015,076 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today
The fact it wasn't on the ITV2 omnibus makes me wonder if it was some sort of last minute decision to put it there, or maybe even put there by mistake due to wrongly set up equipment somewhere in the boradcast chain (which happened to an Emmerdale episode a few years back)? Seeing as it usually isn't the done thing in HD to film in 50i and then filmise in post-production due to the degradation in picture quality, if they want a film look it's usually filmed native 25p.

Unless the complexities of filming different parts of several episodes at once, as is the case with modern soap production, just made it easier to film everything 50i rather than end up filming something in 25p that shouldn't have been?
james-20015,076 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today

Only problem is the film effect continued on scenes not featuring Carla.


That would have been even weirder.


I don't know, it would have provided a separation between which scenes were in her mind and which ones weren't.

That separation is actually more obvious on the film look-less ITV2 omnibus version, as those scenes have the different colour grading, but the ones not from her POV don't, whereas the whole of the episode on ITV seemed to gave that desaturated look.
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Lou Scannon1,167 posts since 1 Jan 2016
HTV West Points West
Aren't soaps fundamentally meant to be done in a "real" style (hence not using things like incidental music)? Foraying into POV material (especially if the POV involves e.g. delusion, hallucination etc) is therefore a distinctly "un-soap" thing to do.

I'm sure that various soaps have dabbled with such non-literal styles over the years, but I am firmly of the opinion that they blinking well shouldn't.

Jack Duckworth "seeing Vera's ghost" at his moment of death, anyone? Rolling Eyes Thumbs down
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davidhorman2,235 posts since 8 Mar 2005
Channel Channel Islands
Aren't soaps fundamentally meant to be done in a "real" style (hence not using things like incidental music)? Foraying into POV material (especially if the POV involves e.g. delusion, hallucination etc) is therefore a distinctly "un-soap" thing to do.



It's an un-Eastenders/Corrie/Emmerdale thing to do, but Hollyoaks has been film-effect for years and has - if I remember rightly - also had incidental music for a while too.

Holby City and Casualty - both now film effect, though they didn't start that way - are pretty soap-y, although I think a lot of people would probably deny that (but be unable to explain why). Holby used to end episodes with a "songtage" and Casualty has just started using the odd bit of incidental music.
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Lou Scannon1,167 posts since 1 Jan 2016
HTV West Points West
Aren't soaps fundamentally meant to be done in a "real" style (hence not using things like incidental music)? Foraying into POV material (especially if the POV involves e.g. delusion, hallucination etc) is therefore a distinctly "un-soap" thing to do.



It's an un-Eastenders/ Corrie/Coronation Street thing to do


You know that those latter two are one-and-the-same soap, right?

Or do you think that "Corrie" is a nickname for Emmerdale?!

(Also... the fifth letter of EastEnders should be a capital letter, dammit!)

*reaches for medication (and/or whisky)*
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Stuart7,247 posts since 13 Oct 2003
Westcountry Spotlight
Holby City and Casualty - both now film effect, though they didn't start that way - are pretty soap-y, although I think a lot of people would probably deny that (but be unable to explain why).

I haven't watched Holby City for about 2 years, but have just started watching some of the 'Classic Holby City' on Drama which are from 2001.


It all looks very strange without the film effect. Very false, and almost 'Crossroads-esque' from the 1980s. Laughing

It's quite surprising what we have come to expect as standard for TV drama.