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(May 2010)

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AN
Ant
David posted:
It's certainly an odd situation, I'm sure actors in Coronation Street either now or in the past have played bad people, even rapists, in other programmes. Does it really make a difference that Chris Fountain did it on YouTube?
Coronation Street itself has featured characters who have raped people too so it's not like it's a completely taboo subject matter. I did wonder if it was more to do with him working elsewhere while he was employed by ITV but presumably he wasn't being paid for those videos and was just doing it for fun. The fact that he did it anonymously means he wasn't even profiting from the Coronation Street name.

Famously. the actor who played Vince St. Clair was well known for being a singer too. As someone else said, probably different rules for different actors.

He got sacked because he appeared to be trivialising and making light of violence and rape, even if it was in character form.

I don't feel he should have been sacked myself. Suspended for a while perhaps.
PT
Put The Telly On
Ant posted:


I don't feel he should have been sacked myself. Suspended for a while perhaps.


Yeah but the 'rent-a-mob' complained as per everything in this country so he had to be sacked.

It was a very silly thing to do though.
JO
Jon
Surely Corrie producers have made a rod for their own back here, because surely the press will now be digging around the history of every actor on the show to see if they can find something of a similar vain and people will notice if a more senior actor is found to have done something deemed similarly inappropriate and they don't get sacked.
BR
Brekkie
Ant posted:
David posted:
It's certainly an odd situation, I'm sure actors in Coronation Street either now or in the past have played bad people, even rapists, in other programmes. Does it really make a difference that Chris Fountain did it on YouTube?
Coronation Street itself has featured characters who have raped people too so it's not like it's a completely taboo subject matter. I did wonder if it was more to do with him working elsewhere while he was employed by ITV but presumably he wasn't being paid for those videos and was just doing it for fun. The fact that he did it anonymously means he wasn't even profiting from the Coronation Street name.

Famously. the actor who played Vince St. Clair was well known for being a singer too. As someone else said, probably different rules for different actors.

He got sacked because he appeared to be trivialising and making light of violence and rape, even if it was in character form.

I don't feel he should have been sacked myself. Suspended for a while perhaps.

Soaps trivialise violence almost on a weekly basis.
CA
Cando
David posted:
It's certainly an odd situation, I'm sure actors in Coronation Street either now or in the past have played bad people, even rapists, in other programmes. Does it really make a difference that Chris Fountain did it on YouTube?
Coronation Street itself has featured characters who have raped people too so it's not like it's a completely taboo subject matter. I did wonder if it was more to do with him working elsewhere while he was employed by ITV but presumably he wasn't being paid for those videos and was just doing it for fun. The fact that he did it anonymously means he wasn't even profiting from the Coronation Street name.

Famously. the actor who played Vince St. Clair was well known for being a singer too. As someone else said, probably different rules for different actor s.


Was Vince going around make videos about violence and rape..........

David posted:
As someone else said, probably different rules for different actor[/b]s.


You mean the poster who doesn't understand what "accused" actually means?
David posted:
It's certainly an odd situation, I'm sure actors in Coronation Street either now or in the past have played bad people, even rapists, in other programmes. Does it really make a difference that Chris Fountain did it on YouTube?
Coronation Street itself has featured characters who have raped people too so it's not like it's a completely taboo subject matter..


Such a nonsense comparison. It's beyond me.

rob posted:
Chris Fountain sacked over YouTube video comments:

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2013-08-19/coronation-street-chris-fountain/


While I totally understand, and accept that sacking him was (probably) the best option, I am sad too see Tommy go.


He was probably on his way out anyway (ie I doubt his contract wouldve been renewed regardless). However most rap would be deemed offensive to a vanilla musical taste, but it's still a valid genre of music so firing him is a bit much if you ask me .


Rape is prominent in rap lyrics since when? He was clearly breaching his contract and bringing the show into disrepute.
KP
KelpieP0921
Big head ache on how they are going to write the character out 'suddenly'. It happens a lot in US Soaps (even when they know an actor won't renew their contract) they seem to 'disappear' with barely a trace or a brief explanation from another character in the storyline.
AN
Andrew Founding member
Big head ache on how they are going to write the character out 'suddenly'. It happens a lot in US Soaps (even when they know an actor won't renew their contract) they seem to 'disappear' with barely a trace or a brief explanation from another character in the storyline.


They will be used to it by now

There will be no mention for ages and then suddenly he will have had to go away to see a relative, and every character will mention this throughout one episode only.
NG
noggin Founding member
Big head ache on how they are going to write the character out 'suddenly'. It happens a lot in US Soaps (even when they know an actor won't renew their contract) they seem to 'disappear' with barely a trace or a brief explanation from another character in the storyline.


They will be used to it by now

There will be no mention for ages and then suddenly he will have had to go away to see a relative, and every character will mention this throughout one episode only.


He'll go upstairs to listen to some tapes...
DJ
DJGM
. . . then come back downstairs several years later with a different head, voice and personality!
JK
JK08
Well they wasted no time..
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3/coronation-street/news/a508098/coronation-street-already-shoot-scene-to-explain-chris-fountain-exit.html?utm_source=twt&utm_medium=snets&utm_campaign=twitter
TV
TVN
I have long campaigned for Coronation Street to be renamed the Emily Bishop monologues and the way things are going I'll soon have my way.

Seriously though - poor decision here I think. This was a relatively trivial issue blown out of proportion by what I can only assume is Mumsnet (a spokesman of which is obliged to be 'outraged', 'appalled' or 'horrified' about everything and anything that has happened, that is happening now and that will happen in future).

The way society in general is going is an affront to the right of expression and the right of free speech. There have been several examples over the past few months and this is yet another.

If he had raped/stabbed someone then obviously there is an issue, but to talk about it in what was meant to be an artistic sense surely should not be punishable?

Plenty of rappers doing this. That he appears in a family soap is unfortunate, but it isn't as if he was doing this in character as Tommy Duckworth or even as himself.
AM
amosc100
Cando posted:


He was probably on his way out anyway (ie I doubt his contract wouldve been renewed regardless). However most rap would be deemed offensive to a vanilla musical taste, but it's still a valid genre of music so firing him is a bit much if you ask me .[/quote]

Rape is prominent in rap lyrics since when? He was clearly breaching his contract and bringing the show into disrepute.[/quote]

Thats where the difficulty lie.

A lot of Rap music for the UK audience is censored - and some are not even allowed in the UK.

For instance Cee-lo Green's single from a couple of years ago which goes on about "hoe's" was called in teh UK "Get You" whilst outside UK, and more-so in conservative US its called "F**k You"

A lot more get either expleted or re-edited with more user-friendly words.

Another example is a Ramstein video, and song, which is banned in the UK but fully available and played anytime in Europe and further afield.

rap Music is the "dark" side, amjority of time, of music and does cover genres which is not expected for many British people.

This was the trait that Chris Fountain was following and it was a bit harsh he got fired for it - but in the end it does come down to what is stipulated in his contract, with which I would say that 99.9% of us on here wouldn't know!

But saying that, like I said earlier, it has probably come sooner, rather than later, for the end of his character.

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