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(May 2010)

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chris
Jon posted:
chris posted:
I thought scenes with Ken in had been dropped? He was in a few times tonight.

You were watching a repeat I assume.


Sorry, I meant last night's episodes, but my point still stands.
JA
JAS84
What the? Did ITV2's repeat run the wrong version of the episode then?
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chris
JAS84 posted:
What the? Did ITV2's repeat run the wrong version of the episode then?


I watched it on ITV Player on Virgin Media. Was Ken not in the original ITV showings?
JO
Jon
chris posted:
JAS84 posted:
What the? Did ITV2's repeat run the wrong version of the episode then?


I watched it on ITV Player on Virgin Media. Was Ken not in the original ITV showings?

Someone should probably get a recording of that. It could go down in the history books.
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chris
Jon posted:
chris posted:
JAS84 posted:
What the? Did ITV2's repeat run the wrong version of the episode then?


I watched it on ITV Player on Virgin Media. Was Ken not in the original ITV showings?

Someone should probably get a recording of that. It could go down in the history books.


I've only seen the 7:30 episode up to now but there was a scene with him coming out of Number 1 with Tracey and another with him in the bookies with Peter.
JA
JAS84
chris posted:
JAS84 posted:
What the? Did ITV2's repeat run the wrong version of the episode then?


I watched it on ITV Player on Virgin Media. Was Ken not in the original ITV showings?
No... so someone's head is on the chopping block.
WP
WillPS
JAS84 posted:
Whataday posted:
JCB posted:
Jon posted:
Today's developments with regards to the arrest of Bill Roache will be worrying for Corrie bosses to say the least a lot of Coronation Street's history is a threat at the moment.


Yeah, because that's what's really important here. Rolling Eyes


Yes, that's EXACTLY what's important here, and important to ITV I expect.

They have consistently built Corrie's history on and around Bill's shoulders and to many fans he IS Coronation Street. As Corrie is ITV's highest rating programme, I would say they have every right to be worried about the possible damage to the reputation of this very valuable brand.
Indeed. Had he been caught back in the 60s, would Corrie even still be around? The scandal may well have sunk the show (it won't do that now, as attitudes are more liberal nowadays, but unfortunately, it's the sack for Bill if he's convicted). In fact, it's entirely possible that Granada wouldn't still exist. Without it's flagship show, it's franchise renewal bids would've been weaker. And if Granada had lost to Mersey TV in 1991, it's likely that ITV plc would not exist, at least not as we know it. Without Coronation Street, ITV would be very different now.

Are you serious? You think the public is more accepting of sex offences now than it was in the 60s?

Coronation Street made absolutely no difference as to Granada's success in the 1991 Franchise Auction. It's a well known and established fact that the bids were assessed on their financial proposals (and viability). In turn, Granada's success probably would have had no implication on the longevity of Coronation Street - see The Bill.
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Whataday Founding member
WillPS posted:
JAS84 posted:
Whataday posted:
JCB posted:
Jon posted:
Today's developments with regards to the arrest of Bill Roache will be worrying for Corrie bosses to say the least a lot of Coronation Street's history is a threat at the moment.


Yeah, because that's what's really important here. Rolling Eyes


Yes, that's EXACTLY what's important here, and important to ITV I expect.

They have consistently built Corrie's history on and around Bill's shoulders and to many fans he IS Coronation Street. As Corrie is ITV's highest rating programme, I would say they have every right to be worried about the possible damage to the reputation of this very valuable brand.
Indeed. Had he been caught back in the 60s, would Corrie even still be around? The scandal may well have sunk the show (it won't do that now, as attitudes are more liberal nowadays, but unfortunately, it's the sack for Bill if he's convicted). In fact, it's entirely possible that Granada wouldn't still exist. Without it's flagship show, it's franchise renewal bids would've been weaker. And if Granada had lost to Mersey TV in 1991, it's likely that ITV plc would not exist, at least not as we know it. Without Coronation Street, ITV would be very different now.

Are you serious? You think the public is more accepting of sex offences now than it was in the 60s?

Coronation Street made absolutely no difference as to Granada's success in the 1991 Franchise Auction. It's a well known and established fact that the bids were assessed on their financial proposals (and viability). In turn, Granada's success probably would have had no implication on the longevity of Coronation Street - see The Bill.


Not more accepting, but in the 60s any sort of sex scandal couldve resulted in a show being scrapped due to the shame brought upon it (and pressure from the ITA), whereas now they take more measured approaches.

And Coronation Street did make a difference to Granada's success in 91. It was widely stated at the time that a big name was going, and that was going to be either Thames or Granada. Granada sent very clear whispers out that Corrie would be sold to the highest bidder (probably Sky) should they lose the franchise. Thames were less threatening, and their backup strategy was to sell their shows to ITV. Also The Bill wasn't in the same league as Corrie. Don't forget it was only a few years old in 91.
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WillPS
Whataday posted:
WillPS posted:
JAS84 posted:
Whataday posted:
JCB posted:
Jon posted:
Today's developments with regards to the arrest of Bill Roache will be worrying for Corrie bosses to say the least a lot of Coronation Street's history is a threat at the moment.


Yeah, because that's what's really important here. Rolling Eyes


Yes, that's EXACTLY what's important here, and important to ITV I expect.

They have consistently built Corrie's history on and around Bill's shoulders and to many fans he IS Coronation Street. As Corrie is ITV's highest rating programme, I would say they have every right to be worried about the possible damage to the reputation of this very valuable brand.
Indeed. Had he been caught back in the 60s, would Corrie even still be around? The scandal may well have sunk the show (it won't do that now, as attitudes are more liberal nowadays, but unfortunately, it's the sack for Bill if he's convicted). In fact, it's entirely possible that Granada wouldn't still exist. Without it's flagship show, it's franchise renewal bids would've been weaker. And if Granada had lost to Mersey TV in 1991, it's likely that ITV plc would not exist, at least not as we know it. Without Coronation Street, ITV would be very different now.

Are you serious? You think the public is more accepting of sex offences now than it was in the 60s?

Coronation Street made absolutely no difference as to Granada's success in the 1991 Franchise Auction. It's a well known and established fact that the bids were assessed on their financial proposals (and viability). In turn, Granada's success probably would have had no implication on the longevity of Coronation Street - see The Bill.


Not more accepting, but in the 60s any sort of sex scandal couldve resulted in a show being scrapped due to the shame brought upon it (and pressure from the ITA), whereas now they take more measured approaches.

And Coronation Street did make a difference to Granada's success in 91. It was widely stated at the time that a big name was going, and that was going to be either Thames or Granada. Granada sent very clear whispers out that Corrie would be sold to the highest bidder (probably Sky) should they lose the franchise. Thames were less threatening, and their backup strategy was to sell their shows to ITV. Also The Bill wasn't in the same league as Corrie. Don't forget it was only a few years old in 91.

Which all had absolutely no effect. The ITC did not consider programming of one against another when choosing, they were totally free of influence of any other force which Mrs. T saw as potentially getting in the way of free market forces, with a caveat that new bidders provided they were able to prove they'd be able to sustain their service to a satisfactory quality.

Granada did not win because they had Coronation Street - that would have been completely against the spirit of the Broadcasting Act. Granada won because the only company who put in a bit higher than themselves failed to prove that their proposed output was of a sufficient quality and sustainable given their bid.
Last edited by WillPS on 5 May 2013 11:17am
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David
Was Roy's Mum watching Bid TV or Price Drop TV this evening? She was interested in a mop but seemed put off by the £7.99 postage and packaging. Strangely, she then went to the post office to purchase a mop. It was implied that it was the same mop. If not Bid/Price Drop, which shopping channel sells mops, charges £7.99 for P&P and allows people to purchase by post?
JA
JAS84
Her name is Sylvia. Could she have been watching ITV's own shopping channel, The Zone?
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stevek2
I wonder if they are using the actual pub interior on the outdoor set as the stripped out rovers, would make sence

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