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(May 2010)

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JO
Joshua
Jez posted:
Coronation Street was inspired by a Salford street. As such, the street could actually be anywhere in Greater Manchester. Back to backs are/weren't unique to Salford and can be found in Bolton, Bury, Rochdale, Oldham, Tameside, Stockport, Wigan and indeed Salford or the city of Manchester. It could well be set in Salford but it's Manchester that gets mentioned on screen. Ironic as many regard Salford as Manchester.


I agree and IMO I think Weatherfield is meant to be a town/district within the county of Greater Manchester. To my knowledge they never mention Salford in Corrie but they often mention Manchester so im guessing Weatherfield is meant to be an equalivent of Salford.


A couple of months ago Eva mentioned Salford twice in one scene! She definitely mentioned the Salford Precinct and the other one was Salford Quays or something like that.
NI
Nicky
Jez posted:
I agree and IMO I think Weatherfield is meant to be a town/district within the county of Greater Manchester. To my knowledge they never mention Salford in Corrie but they often mention Manchester so im guessing Weatherfield is meant to be an equalivent of Salford.


I agree and I think that was certainly the case until very recently, when a few writers bizarrely started to mention Salford within the programme. Jonathan Harvey for example wrote Roy as saying he ran "a backstreet café in Salford" and had Jason say he was "an ordinary Salford lad" in the same ep. I was always led to believe Salford didn't exist in Corrieland. Confused
WH
Whataday Founding member
I used to be a bit of a Corrie history buff and Weatherfield was always BASED on Salford, ie it was a town of similar size to it.
JW
JamesWorldNews
Jez posted:
I agree and IMO I think Weatherfield is meant to be a town/district within the county of Greater Manchester. To my knowledge they never mention Salford in Corrie but they often mention Manchester so im guessing Weatherfield is meant to be an equalivent of Salford.


I agree and I think that was certainly the case until very recently, when a few writers bizarrely started to mention Salford within the programme. Jonathan Harvey for example wrote Roy as saying he ran "a backstreet café in Salford" and had Jason say he was "an ordinary Salford lad" in the same ep. I was always led to believe Salford didn't exist in Corrieland. Confused


In an episode two nights ago in my region, Salford was referred to when a discussion was taking place between Roy, Haleigh and Roy's Mother regarding the number of casinos in the Manchester zone!
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
Why do contributors to this endless dirge not grasp that, as Corrie is a fictitious street, there is NO PRECISE ANSWER to where it is supposed to be located?

As it is written by a constantly-changing stream of different people, there may not be consistency as to whether they acknowledge Salford or Manchester. What they said a year ago might differ from what they said a week ago - it DOESN'T MATTER.

It is a drama, penned by people who don't really give much thought to where on a map you would stick a pin - especially as they are about to move production from one place to another and everyone will just keep PRETENDING it's the same place.

It ill-behoves members of TV Forum to have such a poor grasp of the nature of soap opera fiction.
JW
JamesWorldNews
Why do contributors to this endless dirge not grasp that, as Corrie is a fictitious street, there is NO PRECISE ANSWER to where it is supposed to be located?

As it is written by a constantly-changing stream of different people, there may not be consistency as to whether they acknowledge Salford or Manchester. What they said a year ago might differ from what they said a week ago - it DOESN'T MATTER.

It is a drama, penned by people who don't really give much thought to where on a map you would stick a pin - especially as they are about to move production from one place to another and everyone will just keep PRETENDING it's the same place.

It ill-behoves members of TV Forum to have such a poor grasp of the nature of soap opera fiction.


Coronation Street is fiction???????????? Noooooooo.
BA
bilky asko
Coronation Street [is] set in Weatherfield.


My earlier post still applies. In the world of Coronation Street, there is a town called Weatherfield. Coronation Street is a street in Weatherfield. There is a Wikipedia article all about it.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
You've twice now fallen over yourself to correct someone for asserting one set of fictional things against your version of fictional things. You've suggested that "there is a Wikipedia article all about it", as if that particular organ was the home of absolute truths, moreover that the memorialisation of made up things in a soap on Wiki makes it more accurate than another version of fiction.

Some people might have different ideas from you. As the show isn't real you should probably be more relaxed about that point.
NI
Nicky
You've twice now fallen over yourself to correct someone for asserting one set of fictional things against your version of fictional things. You've suggested that "there is a Wikipedia article all about it", as if that particular organ was the home of absolute truths, moreover that the memorialisation of made up things in a soap on Wiki makes it more accurate than another version of fiction.

Some people might have different ideas from you. As the show isn't real you should probably be more relaxed about that point.


I think the whole reason why we're debating the whole Salford issue is because a meticulous and intricate "backstory" for the show was created and published in several official tie-in books during the 1980s/90s. There are really nerdy (for want of a better word) bits and pieces in each of them, including Ordnance Survey-style maps and the whole shebang, all of which give the impression that Weatherfield was largely based on Salford - indeed, the impression was created on-screen over the years that Salford did not actually exist in the programme's "universe" (or whatever the word is).

That is not to say that the scriptwriting team can't revise history - they can, there's nothing stopping them. As you say (and I agree), it's just a fictitious soap opera. It's just that when things have been solidly laid down in history (on-screen and off), you expect that continuity to remain. Cool

No big deal though, and definitely nothing to argue about, surely?
BA
bilky asko
You've twice now fallen over yourself to correct someone for asserting one set of fictional things against your version of fictional things. You've suggested that "there is a Wikipedia article all about it", as if that particular organ was the home of absolute truths, moreover that the memorialisation of made up things in a soap on Wiki makes it more accurate than another version of fiction.

Some people might have different ideas from you. As the show isn't real you should probably be more relaxed about that point.

The Wikipedia point was merely an addendum.

This argument is a lot like the one that exists concerning which state Springfield is set in on The Simpsons (presumably, by your logic, if you believe it to be set in Timbuktu, it must be).

Anyone with a brain cell could work out that Coronation Street is set in Weatherfield. Will this BBC News article allay your fears that it may be set in McUckachagwe?
Last edited by bilky asko on 23 February 2013 9:24pm
TJ
TomJ
If it doesn't matter to Tony Warren, surely it shouldn't matter to anyone else...

Quote:
"The Queen asked me: 'Where is the real Coronation Street?' recalls its creator Tony Warren. "I said to her: 'It's wherever you want it to be in your own heart.'


http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2010/dec/09/coronation-street-manchester-north-west
BA
bilky asko
TomJ posted:
If it doesn't matter to Tony Warren, surely it shouldn't matter to anyone else...

Quote:
"The Queen asked me: 'Where is the real Coronation Street?' recalls its creator Tony Warren. "I said to her: 'It's wherever you want it to be in your own heart.'


http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2010/dec/09/coronation-street-manchester-north-west


The question the Queen is asking there is essentially "What street is it based on?". He is telling her it isn't based on one street, and is a microcosm representing many streets or areas.

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