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Continued implementation of BBC Reith

Other than places it's already implemented

NJ
Neil Jones Founding member Central (West) Midlands Today
dvboy posted:
Basically someone at the BBC/Netflix/Prime Video etc. should have watched the programme and decided when is a safe point to squeeze the credits without ruining anything important during or after them.


Wouldn't that have been documented (for BBC programmes at least) at the time of production so that Playout knew not to squeeze it? Is that documentation not kept or not referred to for the iPlayer version? Of course its far more likely the entire operation is automated.
CL
clh Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
dvboy posted:
Basically someone at the BBC/Netflix/Prime Video etc. should have watched the programme and decided when is a safe point to squeeze the credits without ruining anything important during or after them.


Wouldn't that have been documented (for BBC programmes at least) at the time of production so that Playout knew not to squeeze it? Is that documentation not kept or not referred to for the iPlayer version? Of course its far more likely the entire operation is automated.


There's a blog post on the BBC Design + Engineering Medium page that talked about machine learning for end credit detection, which they started as part of 10% time.

https://medium.com/bbc-design-engineering/autonomy-innovation-using-10-time-e04dc7f184e9

Basically some stuff, they have end credit time available (don't know if someone works it out or if it's supplied with the programme when it is first broadcast), and if they don't have that they'll give the AI a try.
DA
davidhorman Channel Channel Islands
Asa posted:
Holby ended a special episode with a song running into the credits the other week (I think for the first time ever)


Not the first time ever, I'm pretty sure. I assumed it was a deliberate callback to when they used to end with a "songtage" because they had Patsy Kensit's character back from that era.

Have I Got News For You often comes back after the credits for a little extra bit. I've never seen that cause any problems.
MI
m_in_m Anglia (East) Look East
The BBC blocks are not changing.

This reminds of the "this lady is not for turning"

58 days later

WH
whoiam989 World News
Here's what German typeface designer Erik Spiekermann (co-founder of Font Shop International) have wrote about the BBC Reith font family:




For further comparison, here are the font families in question, designed by Mitja Miklavčič:
Arrow FF Tisa (serif)
Arrow FF Tisa Sans
GE
thegeek Founding member London London
apologies for the reply to an ancient post...

dvboy posted:
Basically someone at the BBC/Netflix/Prime Video etc. should have watched the programme and decided when is a safe point to squeeze the credits without ruining anything important during or after them.


Wouldn't that have been documented (for BBC programmes at least) at the time of production so that Playout knew not to squeeze it? Is that documentation not kept or not referred to for the iPlayer version? Of course its far more likely the entire operation is automated.

It certainly didn't used to be - when I worked in media management, one of the things I had to do was enter a timecode for the start of the end credits into the playout database. I didn't quite realise the importance of that metadata until I was home watching a programme I'd ingested, and thought that the announcer came in a bit abruptly after the programme. Turned out that the automation had gone by my timecode. I made sure to leave a bit more breathing space from then on.
EL
elmarko STV Central Reporting Scotland
it must be so hard to design a font that doesn't look similar to someone else's. those are very close.
AN
all new Phil Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Why are the ECPs *still* using Gill Sans? Surely that’s one of the easier things to update.
JA
JAS84 Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
Yeah, the Subtitles tag is still Gill Sans as well.
OW
Owen_ploc World News
JAS84 posted:
Yeah, the Subtitles tag is still Gill Sans as well.

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Subtitles tag in Reith, eh?
BBC One Scotland aired the "Hoopers of Hulme" ident with the "Subtitles" tag in Reith 12 days ago
I can’t think of a good signature.
JA
JAS84 Yorkshire Look North (E.Yorks & Lincs)
Yeah, that's Scotland. It's still Gill Sans on BBC One network, at least.
ET
ethanh05 Wales Wales Today
JAS84 posted:
Yeah, the Subtitles tag is still Gill Sans as well.

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Subtitles tag in Reith, eh?
BBC One Scotland aired the "Hoopers of Hulme" ident with the "Subtitles" tag in Reith 12 days ago

Sunshine on Reith?

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