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noggin14,704 posts since 26 Jun 2001
It makes the decision to give the London 2012 ceremonies to Done and Dusted even better, doesn't it?! Remember that Hamish Hamilton spent months with the creative teams of the opening and closing ceremonies so that the television direction was developed at the same time as the stadium show. This just looks like some cameras have turned up with a director who has never even spoken to the stage director, let alone seen a script.

To be fair the London closing ceremony was nowhere near as good as the opening.

Historically, closing ceremonies have far less rehearsal (if any) than opening.

The CWG opening was also rehearsed quite heavily, and in a dedicated location (Celtic Park was only used for the opening ISTR - no sporting events were held there?) and had a dedicated team working on it, albeit with a lower budget...

AIUI the Commonwealth Games closing had no rehearsals at all, with the band sound checks planned to take place after the audience had arrived...

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Would it be a S&V staffer doing this or somebody freelance?

Don't think S&V have many staffers do they? Would expect it to be a freelance director, busking it, with the same or similar camera team who did the athletics.

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Also, the Aussie stuff blew us out of the water - I thought the direction was very good there. Perhaps Global taking over for that bit of the show? (Or perhaps I'm reading too much into it...)


I think the staging of the Aussie stuff was very effective - and I expect there was a script provided by the Aussies that could be race read by the PA, giving the director, vision mixer and camera team a fighting chance of covering it effectively. They may also have rehearsed off-site with the director. It was the only "set piece" bit of the ceremony though.

Personally I thought the actual closing Ceremony event was entirely average - apart from Kylie...
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dosxuk4,387 posts since 22 Oct 2005
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
The screens were very cleverly done. I'd be interested to find out the engineering behind them, presumably
the images were streamed via a wi-fi link, but to keep a 32 inch screen alive for 15-20 mins, must have required quite a lot of batteries attached to each screen ? Very heavy assembly to be dancing about with for that period of time !


The demo's of that technology I've seen are pretty simple, and when it works properly, pretty amazing to watch.

There are multiple solutions to doing it, but the best I've seen have been based on a media server for each screen, in a wireless mesh network providing synchronisation and remote control - you get frame accurate synchronisation across however many screens you want. The screens themselves are pretty lightweight, with all the heavy glass / steel included in normal screens for structure / protection excluded. LCD panels themselves don't weigh much, even in big screens.

The cleverer systems include accelerometers / gyroscopes so they know where the screen is facing relative to others and the content to be displayed. That way you can sit and spin / move the screen around and the image stays perfectly still.

I'm guessing that there was some sort of unforeseen problem with the synchronisation on the screens last night, because I don't think anybody would have wanted it to look like it did.
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Markymark7,575 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
Surprising that BBC Three haven't handed back over the extra space it used for the Commonwealths yet. All day we've had the title card 'BBC Three gets going at 7pm' on BBC Three HD on Freesat.


I suspect there will be a technical change embargo running on the BBC code/mux kit today, because of the WW1 programming on BBC 2 this evening ?
MatthewFirth880 posts since 8 Jun 2013
Meridian (South) South Today
It makes the decision to give the London 2012 ceremonies to Done and Dusted even better, doesn't it?! Remember that Hamish Hamilton spent months with the creative teams of the opening and closing ceremonies so that the television direction was developed at the same time as the stadium show. This just looks like some cameras have turned up with a director who has never even spoken to the stage director, let alone seen a script.

To be fair the London closing ceremony was nowhere near as good as the opening.

Historically, closing ceremonies have far less rehearsal (if any) than opening.

The CWG opening was also rehearsed quite heavily, and in a dedicated location (Celtic Park was only used for the opening ISTR - no sporting events were held there?) and had a dedicated team working on it, albeit with a lower budget...

AIUI the Commonwealth Games closing had no rehearsals at all, with the band sound checks planned to take place after the audience had arrived...

Quote:

Would it be a S&V staffer doing this or somebody freelance?

Don't think S&V have many staffers do they? Would expect it to be a freelance director, busking it, with the same or similar camera team who did the athletics.

Quote:

Also, the Aussie stuff blew us out of the water - I thought the direction was very good there. Perhaps Global taking over for that bit of the show? (Or perhaps I'm reading too much into it...)


I think the staging of the Aussie stuff was very effective - and I expect there was a script provided by the Aussies that could be race read by the PA, giving the director, vision mixer and camera team a fighting chance of covering it effectively. They may also have rehearsed off-site with the director. It was the only "set piece" bit of the ceremony though.

Personally I thought the actual closing Ceremony event was entirely average - apart from Kylie...

The closing, in my opinion, was better than the opening, since the opening lacked the entertainment it should have done. The closing had more entertainment, but for 1 hour and 35 mins it was decent enough for a Commonwealth closing. I guess the only 3 things missing was Annie Lennox, The Proclaimers singing 500 Miles and presumably The Duke of Edinburgh declaring the games closed.

The Gold Coast section was great technically, but could have been a little shorter, Kylie was fine but maybe should have done one song less (At one point it looked like she was going to sing 500 Miles instead), Deacon Blue should have sung a more popular song. They were absolutely correct though in ending with Auld Lang Syne and Caledonia, 2 important Scottish songs that always should end a Scottish-led celebration. And starting with Shout was a great sing-along, so was the Locomotion. Lulu should have sang another one though later on in the show.

All and all, a decent ceremony, better than the opening (Maybe 500 Miles should have fitted better than Barrowman's opening) and a great games sadly over.
bluecortina890 posts since 26 Jul 2012
It makes the decision to give the London 2012 ceremonies to Done and Dusted even better, doesn't it?! Remember that Hamish Hamilton spent months with the creative teams of the opening and closing ceremonies so that the television direction was developed at the same time as the stadium show. This just looks like some cameras have turned up with a director who has never even spoken to the stage director, let alone seen a script.

To be fair the London closing ceremony was nowhere near as good as the opening.

Historically, closing ceremonies have far less rehearsal (if any) than opening.

The CWG opening was also rehearsed quite heavily, and in a dedicated location (Celtic Park was only used for the opening ISTR - no sporting events were held there?) and had a dedicated team working on it, albeit with a lower budget...

AIUI the Commonwealth Games closing had no rehearsals at all, with the band sound checks planned to take place after the audience had arrived...

Quote:

Would it be a S&V staffer doing this or somebody freelance?

Don't think S&V have many staffers do they? Would expect it to be a freelance director, busking it, with the same or similar camera team who did the athletics.

Quote:

Also, the Aussie stuff blew us out of the water - I thought the direction was very good there. Perhaps Global taking over for that bit of the show? (Or perhaps I'm reading too much into it...)


I think the staging of the Aussie stuff was very effective - and I expect there was a script provided by the Aussies that could be race read by the PA, giving the director, vision mixer and camera team a fighting chance of covering it effectively. They may also have rehearsed off-site with the director. It was the only "set piece" bit of the ceremony though.

Personally I thought the actual closing Ceremony event was entirely average - apart from Kylie...



Just a quickie as I attended the opening and closing ceremonies. Yes Celtic park only used for the opening and nothing else. Hamden park used for actual events up until pretty late the day before so not much time to turn it around and rehearse! All music acts were rehearsed/sound checked during the time the audience was still coming in - except Kylie. Suspect she was well rehearsed outside of the venue.

You had to be there! Great from an attending audience perspective.
Gary McEwan3,457 posts since 23 May 2011
STV Central Reporting Scotland
They had just about 20 hours to get it from a competition venue to a music venue per se.


Not really. A good proportion of the lighting and sound systems were already in during the week. Looking on the BBC timelapse, the main job is building the stage, which apart from requiring a lot of manual labour, isn't a complex job.


Well that what was quoted by the Organising Committee, as we had to get buses organised for some of the changeover team coming back out of Hampden...
dosxuk4,387 posts since 22 Oct 2005
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Well that what was quoted by the Organising Committee, as we had to get buses organised for some of the changeover team coming back out of Hampden...


The organising committee are hardly going to state "while most of the work to transform the stadium into a music venue was completed before the games even started, we still need to put some bits of staging up, some covers on the track and get a few tents out before we will be ready for our spectacular closing ceremony" are they? Their job is to big up themselves and the complexity of what happens. It's everyone else's job to make sure what they want is achievable, and to make it as easy as possible.

It would take far more than 20 hours to put that show together from scratch, even with an Olympic size budget. You're probably talking a couple of days minimum just to put the main cable runs in.
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tightrope781,151 posts since 29 Dec 2005 Recently warned
UTV Newsline
Sorry to drag up this thread but I see that now the Games are over you can watch the YouTube feed. Whilst some of the events are shown in a condensed format you can watch a feed for each days action that lasts for 12 hours or so. It's quite interesting to see how its all put together.