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For those of you not in the know, here's a definition of tommy rot. Basically, several of the sketches last night fitted that definition, i.e. utter nonsense. Like I've said already, you can have humourous fun without it being utter rubbish like some of what we had to endure last night. I liked Jason Manford, he did some good jokes. When I saw Jimmy Cricket live at Blackpool Pleasure Beach last year, one of his jokes was "I couldn't find the M6, and ended up driving the M3 twice". Now that's a good joke, not the garbage in some of the sketches last night.
Victorian Dragon's Den (the toothbrush, flush toilet and TV are things we all now take for granted anyway, not things to feature on Dragon's Den).
I think I see what's happenning here - Tumbly is on a Sponsored Miss-The-Point-A-Thon
Miss-The-Point-A-Thon? Missing what point? I suppose the toothbrush, flush toilet and TV were innovative inventions in Victorian times. Mind you wasn't it the 1930s when John Logie Baird pioneered TV, and then it was a spinning disc, not a cathode ray tube. When the Marconi-EMI 405 line system became the standard, it was black and white, color was a later leap. That set they showed was colour! Stupid time paradox. The list goes on, that Victorian Dragon's Den was a complete ridiculous mickey take and waste of space. If they wanted Dragon's Den, at least they could have had Dragon's Den proper.
"Amarillo" was not the official 2005 Comic Relief single, despite proceeds going to Comic Relief. The official 2005 Comic Relief single was "All About You/You've Got a Friend" by McFly. This year's equivalent of "All About You" , i.e. official 2009 Comic Relief single was "Just Can't Get Enough" by The Saturdays. I've seen on Wikipedia that there was another official Comic Relief single this year: "Islands in the Stream" by Ruth Jones and Rob Brydon featuring Tom Jones and Robin Gibb. Still that's a second official single, not an unofficial one like "Amarillo" in 2005, so really there was no Amarillo equivalent this time.
So basically, anything you don't like gets chucked out?
I was suggesting the utter garbage that I listed be chucked out and replaced with decent humour, e.g. stand-up comics Jimmy Cricket and Jasper Carrot, as well as magicians, illusionists and perhaps a circus act, among a wider variety of live pop performances than we had last night. I bet I'm not the only person who hated a lot of the stuff I listed as "should have been dropped".
Why are you saying that? Just cos I suggested having a kids' slot the first half hour? I did point out that coverage on BBC One after the news should be adult material, did I not?
Okay, I suggested Pete Hillier do some Boogie Beebies style dances between 7 and 7:30 aimed at 6 to 14 year olds. He could come back after midnight to do some dances for adults aged 18 and over , i.e. more adult oriented songs to dance to, but the principle is still the same.
What do you mean I don't seem to understand anything? I had a right to voice my opinion about what was good and bad, didn't I? Also I had a right to suggest an alternative schedule which I personally felt would have been better.
I can only reiterate, my suggestion wouldn't have been predominantly music (unlike Children In Need), it would have been live stand-up comedians, magicians, hypnotists, puppeteers (John Garland), and so on as well as live pop performances.
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Tumble Tower posted:
Victorian Dragon's Den (the toothbrush, flush toilet and TV are things we all now take for granted anyway, not things to feature on Dragon's Den).
I think I see what's happenning here - Tumbly is on a Sponsored Miss-The-Point-A-Thon
Miss-The-Point-A-Thon? Missing what point? I suppose the toothbrush, flush toilet and TV were innovative inventions in Victorian times. Mind you wasn't it the 1930s when John Logie Baird pioneered TV, and then it was a spinning disc, not a cathode ray tube. When the Marconi-EMI 405 line system became the standard, it was black and white, color was a later leap. That set they showed was colour! Stupid time paradox. The list goes on, that Victorian Dragon's Den was a complete ridiculous mickey take and waste of space. If they wanted Dragon's Den, at least they could have had Dragon's Den proper.
GoodDoctorClarkson posted:
I wasn't watching this years event, because I knew it was going to be rubbish (I like Robbie Williams but really enough of Little Britain for one lifetime).
What was this years Amarillo and Proclaimers song?
What was this years Amarillo and Proclaimers song?
"Amarillo" was not the official 2005 Comic Relief single, despite proceeds going to Comic Relief. The official 2005 Comic Relief single was "All About You/You've Got a Friend" by McFly. This year's equivalent of "All About You" , i.e. official 2009 Comic Relief single was "Just Can't Get Enough" by The Saturdays. I've seen on Wikipedia that there was another official Comic Relief single this year: "Islands in the Stream" by Ruth Jones and Rob Brydon featuring Tom Jones and Robin Gibb. Still that's a second official single, not an unofficial one like "Amarillo" in 2005, so really there was no Amarillo equivalent this time.
Jugalug posted:
Tumble Tower posted:
Around 4pm this afternoon...donning red noses.
So basically, anything you don't like gets chucked out?
I was suggesting the utter garbage that I listed be chucked out and replaced with decent humour, e.g. stand-up comics Jimmy Cricket and Jasper Carrot, as well as magicians, illusionists and perhaps a circus act, among a wider variety of live pop performances than we had last night. I bet I'm not the only person who hated a lot of the stuff I listed as "should have been dropped".
Jugalug posted:
We're not all six years old.
Why are you saying that? Just cos I suggested having a kids' slot the first half hour? I did point out that coverage on BBC One after the news should be adult material, did I not?
Okay, I suggested Pete Hillier do some Boogie Beebies style dances between 7 and 7:30 aimed at 6 to 14 year olds. He could come back after midnight to do some dances for adults aged 18 and over , i.e. more adult oriented songs to dance to, but the principle is still the same.
JonathanEx posted:
Ignoring Tumble Tower who doesn't seem to understand anything, I think it was a pretty good night overall. On the whole, very slick, some very funny bits (others bombed, but there we go) and very powerful appeal films. Tennant worked very well as a presenter.
What do you mean I don't seem to understand anything? I had a right to voice my opinion about what was good and bad, didn't I? Also I had a right to suggest an alternative schedule which I personally felt would have been better.
I can only reiterate, my suggestion wouldn't have been predominantly music (unlike Children In Need), it would have been live stand-up comedians, magicians, hypnotists, puppeteers (John Garland), and so on as well as live pop performances.
AJ
Miss-The-Point-A-Thon? Missing what point? I suppose the toothbrush, flush toilet and TV were innovative inventions in Victorian times. Mind you wasn't it the 1930s when John Logie Baird pioneered TV, and then it was a spinning disc, not a cathode ray tube. When the Marconi-EMI 405 line system became the standard, it was black and white, color was a later leap. That set they showed was colour! Stupid time paradox. The list goes on, that Victorian Dragon's Den was a complete ridiculous mickey take and waste of space. If they wanted Dragon's Den, at least they could have had Dragon's Den proper.
You've pretty much proved the point that you have missed the flaming point
Comedy isn't about being factually accurate about things - I mean would it be funny if they went on about dates and Marconi-EMI 405 line systems etc?
NO
If you think watching celebrities tightrope walk over a ball pit would be hilarously funny, perhaps you should watch kids TV. Or Cirque-de-celebrite on Sky1. Modern comedy obviously isn't for you.
Tumble Tower posted:
Miss-The-Point-A-Thon? Missing what point? I suppose the toothbrush, flush toilet and TV were innovative inventions in Victorian times. Mind you wasn't it the 1930s when John Logie Baird pioneered TV, and then it was a spinning disc, not a cathode ray tube. When the Marconi-EMI 405 line system became the standard, it was black and white, color was a later leap. That set they showed was colour! Stupid time paradox. The list goes on, that Victorian Dragon's Den was a complete ridiculous mickey take and waste of space. If they wanted Dragon's Den, at least they could have had Dragon's Den proper.
You've pretty much proved the point that you have missed the flaming point
Comedy isn't about being factually accurate about things - I mean would it be funny if they went on about dates and Marconi-EMI 405 line systems etc?
NO
If you think watching celebrities tightrope walk over a ball pit would be hilarously funny, perhaps you should watch kids TV. Or Cirque-de-celebrite on Sky1. Modern comedy obviously isn't for you.
JO
No you didn't, you're an idiot.
That's the point - you shouldn't assume.
TT posted:
I had a right to voice my opinion about what was good and bad, didn't I?
No you didn't, you're an idiot.
Brekkie posted:
I found it odd though that they stated you had to be over 16 - for competitions you understand why, but in what way could it be wrong for under 16's to donate a fiver to charity, assuming it's coming off their own phone bill.
That's the point - you shouldn't assume.
NG
Miss-The-Point-A-Thon? Missing what point? I suppose the toothbrush, flush toilet and TV were innovative inventions in Victorian times. Mind you wasn't it the 1930s when John Logie Baird pioneered TV, and then it was a spinning disc, not a cathode ray tube.
Nope - Logie-Baird used Nipkow's spinning disc for the early experiments he did in the 20s. By the time he was up against Marconi's all electronic system in the 30s he was using flying spots, mirror drums and Farnsworth's image dissector.
The Nipkow disc certainly dates back to Victorian times...
However - that misses the point.
It was a joke.
Things don't have to be factually accurate to be funny...
noggin
Founding member
Tumble Tower posted:
Miss-The-Point-A-Thon? Missing what point? I suppose the toothbrush, flush toilet and TV were innovative inventions in Victorian times. Mind you wasn't it the 1930s when John Logie Baird pioneered TV, and then it was a spinning disc, not a cathode ray tube.
Nope - Logie-Baird used Nipkow's spinning disc for the early experiments he did in the 20s. By the time he was up against Marconi's all electronic system in the 30s he was using flying spots, mirror drums and Farnsworth's image dissector.
The Nipkow disc certainly dates back to Victorian times...
However - that misses the point.
It was a joke.
Things don't have to be factually accurate to be funny...
PT
Unless it's a soap drama...but lets not go there.
noggin posted:
Things don't have to be factually accurate to be funny...
Unless it's a soap drama...but lets not go there.
IS
After that they had two blokes in a house. I stopped watching then. As far as I was concerned, the final total had been announced, so I guessed they weren't going to update it in their slot. To me the evening was to all intents and purposes over already, and the two blokes in the house was an additional extra. Was that the case? Did I miss much in avoiding that bit? Is it true their bit was just old clips, and repeats of the appeal films?
SNIP
2:10 Grand total.
The end then - weatherview and join BBC News Channel. None of that unnecessary extra tack-on.
Yes, that's what they've done to finish off the night for a while - comedy clips and appeals linked by a couple of people. The last couple of RNDs it's been Simon Pegg and Nick Frost. They're normally quite good
It's a way of keeping going for another hour without having to keep everyone in the studios behind. The earlier ones used to crash off air at sometime around 2 and were then followed by a comedy film
The best bit was Graham Norton's section 1am to 2:10 am, featuring the bit with those ladies dancing (can-can style)
Yes, they were ladies dancing!
Tumble Tower posted:
After that they had two blokes in a house. I stopped watching then. As far as I was concerned, the final total had been announced, so I guessed they weren't going to update it in their slot. To me the evening was to all intents and purposes over already, and the two blokes in the house was an additional extra. Was that the case? Did I miss much in avoiding that bit? Is it true their bit was just old clips, and repeats of the appeal films?
SNIP
2:10 Grand total.
The end then - weatherview and join BBC News Channel. None of that unnecessary extra tack-on.
Yes, that's what they've done to finish off the night for a while - comedy clips and appeals linked by a couple of people. The last couple of RNDs it's been Simon Pegg and Nick Frost. They're normally quite good
It's a way of keeping going for another hour without having to keep everyone in the studios behind. The earlier ones used to crash off air at sometime around 2 and were then followed by a comedy film
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The best bit was Graham Norton's section 1am to 2:10 am, featuring the bit with those ladies dancing (can-can style)
Yes, they were ladies dancing!