cock up on BBC Wales a few moments ago - during Dragon's Eye

Just telling it how is it:

- A trail was mistakenly previewed so the audio went out over a programme. The director probably didn't realise it had happened.

- I'm not aware, and don't believe, that there was five minutes of silence during a programme.

- Question Time would have been exactly the same here as it was on network.

So that's one mistake made during a twelve hour shift. Obviously perfection is the ideal but I would suggest it's unattainable in any job, whoever's doing it. One mistake certainly doesn't make someone unprofessional.

One mistake ?????

Yes - see my previous post.

Yep (well more than 2 because I went downstairs to make a cup of tea in the meantime). I switched to other BBC channels and non-BBC muxes to make sure it wasn't a transmission problem - audio was fine everywhere else. If it was a problem with playback from the 2W recording (or edit), that's why I was curious that there was no caption.

Edit: I've now been able to watch the programme again on the web, not in broadband sadly. I wonder if they've found someone competent enough to replace David W yet..

I've investigated and apparently there was a DTT encoding problem that affected the audio. Again, it's not something that the Presentation director would necessarily have been aware of, unfortunately. It's also a bit of a close call as to whether a caption would have been appropriate as satellite, cable and terrestrial weren't affected.

Thanks for the info

I watched it this morning(SKY +), mainly to see if Richard Madeley made a t*t of himself & it was ok AFAIK.

Certainly was only one mistake! As Dan said Question Time is time shifted therefore the copy in Wales is exactly what was seen in England 30 minutes previous.

Tell you what, lets get a load of TV Forumers together to watch you at work tomorrow... then we can pick over all your mistakes!

Lots of tv forumers used to watch me at work - and I them, don't you know. We used to correct the mistakes that the production tw @ ts made - you know the " independents " - a more dependent bunch you never met - absolutely dependent on someone else making their cr@p fit for transmission. Been there , done it , got the t-shirt(s) etc.
Very impressed with Dr. Who though , now there we can say there is a quality product. As for the last Dragon's Eye - ok a small mistake - unless you monitor off air sound so you know absolutely what it is you're sending out to the world.

But you're laying the blame with the Pres Director, when they cannot monitor DTT audio off-air. They have audio feeds of desk out, analogue off-air, and DSat off-air. DTT audio had to be monitored by CTA. In this case CTA picked up the problem and dealt with it, however it took five minutes to reach a solution.

A temporary fault caption wouldn't have been appropriate for analogue and DSat viewers, and likewise an apology at the end would have made very little sense to those viewers - who make up by far the biggest majority in Wales. As far as I am aware there were no complaints received - which possibly speaks volumes about the subject matter of that item!

As Dan and Ruski have pointed out, any error in a network programme is their error. Whether it's an SB or time-shift, the programme is transmitted in the Nation in the same form as it is on the parent network.

The mix in of the world cup promo should have been picked up therefore , if they'd been listening to off - air. As for the subject matter of that item - windfarms and a home grown producer of turbines was of great interest I would have said . It's the late hour of screening that does the damage.