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(October 2007)

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IS
Inspector Sands
tvarksouthwest posted:

Oh dear...where have you been these last two years? Old films and repeats don't encourage people to spend what they haven't got.


They also don't bring in any revenue!

I don't agree that old films are the way, the problem with nightime programmes are that unless you're up all night you tend to start watching and then fall asleep, or wake up in the night and turn the TV on.

It'll never happen, but what they need is something long-form and entertaining that you can dip in and out of, preferably live... and something that's not aimed at 'the kids'
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
tvarksouthwest posted:
I did think about what an announcer might say: "And that's as far as we go on BBC2 tonight. Before we go, a reminder that the clocks go back an hour at 2am tonight, taking us into Greenwich Mean Time - so while you enjoy your extra hour in bed spare a thought for our late team who'll be minding the shop for an extra hour, so to speak. "


So if you imagine that's the type of thing an announcer might say, why would you complain about it earlier in this thread? Isn't it a perfectly normal thing to say when the clocks go back?

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"Wish people would stop assuming we'll allll enjoy "an extra hour in bed" when this comes round. Some of us might prefer to work through the extra hour."


I think I prefer what you say when you're pretending to be an announcer.

Less shrill and whiney.

But I will say that your decision to complain several hours before the event shows that you really can put that extra hour to effective use.

Bravo.

EDIT: Oh it was last night? Well that's what happens when you don't get very much sleep at all at the weekend. My bad.
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tvarksouthwest
Gavin Scott posted:
So if you imagine that's the type of thing an announcer might say, why would you complain about it earlier in this thread? Isn't it a perfectly normal thing to say when the clocks go back?

The announcer wouldn't usually turn it back on the audience in such a tongue-in-cheek way; it would be rather amusing if he did though!

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But I will say that your decision to complain several hours before the event shows that you really can put that extra hour to effective use

It is true that I do mostly see "the extra hour" as an opportunity to get the bit between my teeth with something that needs doing.

But seriously, how many people who relish the extra hour in bed actually end up using it? Our body clocks are mostly programmed for however many hours sleep so most people end up getting up at "the normal time", only to realise it's actually an hour early.

Also, BBC News is today reporting on research which suggests forcing oneself to stay in bed an extra hour actually ends up causing tiredness, through disrupting the normal pattern.
JV
James Vertigan Founding member
Manju Malhi decided to wait until the ident going into Ceefax to remind viewers to put their clocks back... Some people may have already adjusted their clocks by then - or had them automatically adjusted if they were radio controlled!
JA
jamesmd
I slept an extra hour today.

I read your posts and fell asleep.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
dvboy posted:
It's taken Quiz Call the best part of an hour to get their game back on air. Despite pleadings not to play, and no phone number on screen, they've apparently had 9 entries in the last minute before going back on.


If that is the case (that 9 people are stupid enough to phone up a TV show despite having been told every three seconds not to call due to technical problems) then the problem in this case exists between Television and Chair and I hope if they complain to OFCOM about advertising a non-working phone number (from the Quiz Call site) during broadcasting hours despite pleas from the presenter not to use it, that OFCOM will politely tell them to go away.

Mind you, its the first time in two years I've seen Quiz Call suffer technical problems, I cannot remember such an issue when the channel was owned by Channel 4 despite running for 14hrs every day.

Back on topic though, I noticed earlier today that the MSF Radio Time Signal transmission (used to come from Rugby, now comes from Cumbria) was still an hour out as of 4:30 this afternoon, according to my parents clock which sets itself based on this signal. Went to 8pm, sat there for ten minutes and then ran round to 5:30pm once it found a signal.
BC
Blake Connolly Founding member
The change completely screwed up that nights downloads to Sky Anytime on TV. The film "Zathura" had a documentry about Sharks followed by the first half hour of the movie, and the Big New HD Preview Show was 15 minutes of a rather sweary movie!
MI
Michael
The clocks in the hotel I work at are controlled by Rolex in Geneva. They stopped at 5:03am for an hour.
DA
David
tvarksouthwest posted:
davidlees posted:
So? I would prefer live programming over some film. I very rarely watch ITV1 [late at night] but if I am going through the channels, I am more likely to stop on a live quiz programme for a while than I am to stop on a film that they are probably only showing for contractual reasons anyway.


LIve programming it may be but also the most cynical, lowest common denominator programming and the type that has damaged ITV's reputation.


Surely its shows such as Saturday Night Take Away, Soap Star Superstar and I'm a Celeb.. that have damaged ITV's reputation. As far as I'm aware, ITV Play branded shows have been fair and honest.
tvarksouthwest posted:
If ITV had shown a late film it would have at least reduced the time available for Make Your Play to no more than usual. But no - they were determined to take advantage of "the extra hour" in the hope that more gullible idiots would call with answers that weren't there (does anyone win anything on Make Your Play?)


Obviously people win on Make your Play. Not many and they don't win much, which is why I would never bother to phone in.
tvarksouthwest posted:
My preferred option of course would have been Make Your Play ran its usual four hours, with signed programmes an hour early at 3:10am and Nightscreen at 4am (when the Learning Zone ran at weekends, they didn't give us an extra hour's programming on clocks back night).

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I can't understand people criticising ITV 1 for showing ITV Play. If it was taking the place of something worth watching then I could understand but its not. Its taking the place of the repeats, films and PIFs that they used to show before ITV Play came along.


Oh dear...where have you been these last two years? Old films and repeats don't encourage people to spend what they haven't got.


You seem to be arguing with yourself here. I'm not the person who wants to see old films and repeats. It was you that said
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And to think ITV could have had a late film tonight.
JV
James Vertigan Founding member
James Hall posted:
I slept an extra hour today.

I read your posts and fell asleep.


Was there really any need for that?
JO
Joe
James Vertigan posted:
James Hall posted:
I slept an extra hour today.

I read your posts and fell asleep.


Was there really any need for that?


No, but it was funny. So it can be excused. Imagine how dull this forum would be if everybody stuck to the topic the whole time.
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tvarksouthwest
davidlees posted:
[Surely its shows such as Saturday Night Take Away, Soap Star Superstar and I'm a Celeb.. that have damaged ITV's reputation. As far as I'm aware, ITV Play branded shows have been fair and honest.

(coughs) Erm, what about Quizmania and its "rawl plugs" incident? Even Greggles himself turned on his paymasters after that one.

At least there is more to Saturday Night Takeaway etc. than just phone-ins. They are essentially light entertainment and you can choose to ignore the phone-ins. ITV Play programmes on the other hand exist solely on the basis of phone-ins - what else do they offer the viewer?

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You seem to be arguing with yourself here. I'm not the person who wants to see old films and repeats. It was you that said "And to think ITV could have had a late film tonight"

Well at least a film is usually more engaging than a bloke stood there like a lemon telling people "call now, this is serious money" every five seconds. And not as monotonous or repetitive.

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