Could classic Presentation come back into use?

I was thinking about this, the other day when my mind went a bit blank. could some of the older CA/Press come back in to use on tv?

* INVISON CA reappear?
* Could proper clock come back in, even just on the news channel to show off the countdown?
* "Coming up on Saturday night" Menu/promo?
* Church spots for who ever?

Its been noted that other counties have some of the above aspects, many were thrown out when the amount of stations started to expand, It seems UK just let the cat right out of the bag with out any controls. I like the idea that ALL digital channels must spend 10% of the budgets original shows, in said county. I still believe there are to many channels.

Clocks with second hands are unlikely to appear - as digital compression and distribution mean that they could be massively inaccurate (10-20" would be perfectly expected these days)

In-vision presentation is popular still in some regions - though SVT in Sweden recently ceased using in-vision presentation on SVT1.

I wouldn't be surprised if the concept of 'ident + announcement' that all the main channels use in the UK were experimented with - and the concept of 'junctions' played around with.

I don't buy the digital delay thing - if that was the case Radio wouldn't be allowed to broadcast the pips.

I too agree that there are too many channels - but that's a silly thing to try and complain about

That said, I don't want to go back to 4 or 5 channel TV.

The clock is still common in mainland europe as well!

I don't want 5 channels only but I believe there is a lot of pointless sky channels and you could easily cut half the channels

Radio suffers far less in this regard than TV - the coding delay for audio is nowhere near as huge. However showing an on-screen clock with a second hand that is totally incorrect is a bizarre thing to do...

It always surprises me how often the word 'allowed' is used here... Things like this aren't 'allowed' or 'forbidden' - decisions are simply taken.

(The pips used to be very accurate - AIUI they are far less so these days?)

Thing is, I'd rather go back in time 15 years and have what I had on analogue cable compared to what's on Sky and Virgin today.

I agree - although it would be analogue satellite for me. I think my parents first got Sky in around 1995 and the line-up was more than adequate. The 5 terrestrial channels were of much higher quality than they are now, and Sky had a nice selection of news, sport, kids, documentaries and general entertainment. In many cases it had just one or two of each category and that was more than enough. I'd go so far as to say we watched more television back then than we do now. These days I put Sky on, flick aimlessly through and then decide to put on a DVD or something. It's rare that I actually find something I really want to watch on Sky now. I watch Neighbours on Channel 5 and the news on BBC/ITV/C4/Sky and that's pretty much it. I sometimes have a look at Challenge and generally use the traditional terrestrial channels as background noise if I'm at home. As far as I'm concerned I'd be happier with 20% of the channels we have now, so long as they were of a higher quality.

Well cant there just have the clock running two seconds faster on screen?

For a start, the delay on satellite and terrestrial is completely different.

I agree - that excuse always seems very flimsy to me. How many people actually set their clocks using the clocks on TV? A lot of people these days have radio-controlled clocks and those who don't only set them fairly accurately anyway. Even if the delay was 20 seconds it's still within the minute after the hour by the time it reaches the viewer. I don't think the world will stop just because of that. I always thought the mute clock was a very suitable way of leading into the news. Idents with music sound awful - it's been 10 years now since the BBC dropped the clock; enough already.