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JamesM0984
Central (East) East Midlands Today
Bringing it back on topic though...

Emmerdale's sexing up was a casualty of the franchise auction in an indirect way. In an interview for the 40th anniversary, Phil Redmond noted "one London company did a lot of research to prove that it would be better to axe Emmerdale and they do their own new show."

When bought in by YTV and asked what he felt was required to boost the ratings he said "Scrap it, and buy a new one from me."

The following interview with Redmond is here and offers some background, plus a fascinating interview with Ian Rowley, who did the SFX for the plane crash that resulted. Especially interesting as they still filmed in Esholt at this point.

He was also involved with blowing the Queen Vic up for EastEnders.

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Brekkie30,684 posts since 4 Jan 2003 Recently warned
HTV Wales Wales Today
At 45 minutes I'll take your word for it.

And looking at the history of the ITV soaps especially and the way TV is going now I can't see another soap cropping up in the near future. Indeed even if one of the current soaps got to the point where it was axed I'd be surprised if a new soap was commissioned to replace it.
Shouldn't that have been posted in the "John Logie Baird has Invented Television" thread?
VMPhil9,192 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today
At 45 minutes I'll take your word for it.

And looking at the history of the ITV soaps especially and the way TV is going now I can't see another soap cropping up in the near future. Indeed even if one of the current soaps got to the point where it was axed I'd be surprised if a new soap was commissioned to replace it.

I'm not sure viewers would be able to follow another soap when the current ones are now so saturated in the weekly schedules.
62305823,151 posts since 19 Aug 2005
STV Central Reporting Scotland
At 45 minutes I'll take your word for it.

And looking at the history of the ITV soaps especially and the way TV is going now I can't see another soap cropping up in the near future. Indeed even if one of the current soaps got to the point where it was axed I'd be surprised if a new soap was commissioned to replace it.

I'm not sure viewers would be able to follow another soap when the current ones are now so saturated in the weekly schedules.



I think the point is a new soap would take some slots away from the current ones, Ie Emmerdale cut to 5 and Corrie cut to 4-5. Even the ozzy soaps dont do 250 new episodes a year
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Si-Co1,973 posts since 2 Oct 2003
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
I believed it was Thames, then Carlton - there was a massive increase in cuts post 1993.

However, YTV would make sense as the height of the cuts coincided with Bruce Gyngell's moral crusade at YTV-TTT.


Sorry to continue the off topic chat but I think the rumour that YTV has links with H&A came about because one of the earliest YouTube uploads was of a broadcast on YTV which had “a Yorkshire Television presentation” caption at the end, seen only by viewers of YTV. Someone put 2 and 2 together and got 5, but the rumour stuck around.
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Steve Williams2,594 posts since 1 Aug 2008
Sorry to continue the off topic chat but I think the rumour that YTV has links with H&A came about because one of the earliest YouTube uploads was of a broadcast on YTV which had “a Yorkshire Television presentation” caption at the end, seen only by viewers of YTV. Someone put 2 and 2 together and got 5, but the rumour stuck around.


No, I'm sure I read this at the time - I remember the short-lived TV magazine The Box doing a piece on how they edited it, and I think it mentioned YTV in that.
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JamesM0984
Central (East) East Midlands Today
At 45 minutes I'll take your word for it.
The plane crash only takes up the start, it covers other stuff too.

And looking at the history of the ITV soaps especially and the way TV is going now I can't see another soap cropping up in the near future. Indeed even if one of the current soaps got to the point where it was axed I'd be surprised if a new soap was commissioned to replace it.


Agree. The flops of Crossroads and Night and Day I think showed a lack of appetite for a new soap.
Neil Jones4,873 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
Night & Day could be considered as not quite right for ITV at that time as it wasn't a "straight" soap. It may have done better on a channel that likes to air slightly quirky stuff or things that isn't quite mainstream enough. Maybe Channel 4 would have been better for it, or possibly BBC Four had it been a year or two later, since they tend to air a lot of stuff that the PSBs tend to avoid.

The story of Crossroads is documented. Not entirely the fault of the show but ITV were equally to blame as well because they shot themselves in the foot with it by leaving a thirteen month gap between H&A and the new soap and then wondered why the H&A audience vanished.
kernow1,115 posts since 18 Jan 2006
The story of Crossroads is documented. Not entirely the fault of the show but ITV were equally to blame as well because they shot themselves in the foot with it by leaving a thirteen month gap between H&A and the new soap and then wondered why the H&A audience vanished.



Also, Crossroads should have been given more time, and not messed around with in 2003, which completely ruined it and made it lose a lot of viewers, resulting in Blue Peter beating it in the ratings. Before the changes in 2003 it was doing relatively well ratings-wise, and it could have been more successful and might still be going today if it had stuck to the original 2001 format.
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