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Neil Jones4,782 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
The BBC's full iPlayer expansion proposals have been put out to consultation. At least 12 months of content in most genres will be offered if approved. Further enhancements to include more box sets and significantly greater archive content have also been proposed.


Fascinating, Amazon has nearly 25k viewing hours to see compared to iPlayer which only has less than 5k. Genome suggests the BBC has 30% of its listings physically which amounts to over 1 million hours of output. So if they really wanted to (subjects to rights and budget and time and everything) the BBC could wipe the floor with Amazon in terms of offerings.

Presumably the various ITV archives that ITV plc control and have access to is fairly substantial after 60 years and they could probably inflate their offerings too to match Now and Netflix.
Neil Jones4,782 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
One man's quality is another man's junk. It just goes to show though the large range of choice around today. Amazon can tie all their catalogue into IMDB since they've owned that for the last 20 years and at least have some idea of what's being viewed.

Some Amazon stuff gets syndicated to other networks around the world which presumably offsets the cost of this service since they only charge £80 a year for it under Prime (some stuff is extra). Netflix presumably works the same way since they charge £72 a year for it. When you look at the costs and everything its hardly surprising these services have taken off, coupled with cheap fast internet.
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DVB Cornwall7,896 posts since 4 Dec 2003
Westcountry Spotlight
It’s also interesting to note that although no longer being ‘top tiled’ (on Roku devices) that the UHD feeds, as at last evening anyway, of Dynasties are available still way beyond the initial cutoff date. It seems that if you’ve already watched one or more episode, revisiting the series accesses the UHD versions still.
Si-Co1,956 posts since 2 Oct 2003
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
I’m not sure if this is the most appropriate thread to discuss this, but I didn’t want to start a new one unnecessarily.

Season Six of A Place to Call Home began today on BBC One, and will run each weekday until Friday 22nd February. I see that all ten episodes are already available to view on BBC iPlayer. Although labelled correctly, they appear in a random order. Is it common practice for all episodes of an series to be made available online before they have been transmitted? I can see how this would be popular with those who like to “binge watch” but it gives the impression the BBC are not bothered about “live” viewing figures in this mid-afternoon timeslot. It’s also potentially confusing that the episodes are not presented online in chronological order, particularly as this is a serialised drama.
Neil Jones4,782 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
Presumably because A Place to Call Home is an import from Australia it has a different iPlayer policy. Or maybe its an error and it shouldn't have been released? Perhaps flag it up?

However there is a big bold block of text on the iPlayer "how long are programmes available for" page:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/programme-availability/programme-availability-info/programme_avail_duration posted:
We’re also extending (pending commercial negotiations) the availability of a number of programmes including dramas, documentaries and comedy series. This explains why you’ll sometimes spot these types of programmes available for longer.
noggin14,032 posts since 26 Jun 2001
I guess there are two major issues relating to archive content on iPlayer :

1. 'Distorting the market' - if the BBC makes archive content available to an audience free-of-charge, commercial operators who have paid to show that content on their platform may accuse the BBC of having their cake and eating it.

2. The cost of making archive available is still non-trivial, as original rights deals and contracts won't have included on-line provision, so you will either need to go back and renegotiate with the original rights holders on a show-by-show basis, or try and do a blanket deal with the major stakeholders.
mr_vivian824 posts since 11 Oct 2015
UTV Newsline
Perhaps they could reduce the license fee and put iPlayer behind a paywall? I'd imagine there's still a good number of people who just watch tele live and never touch the iPlayer.

No solution to this ever growing TV license problem is desirable but ultimately something has got to take a hit.
noggin14,032 posts since 26 Jun 2001
There probably needs to be exceptions in the cases of Netflix etc where a lot of BBC box sets have gone to, but I do agree that the iPlayer could seriously rival Netflix and Prime Video if it wanted to.

"if it wanted to"? If you mean "if the BBC wanted to" - that's the whole point of the consultation.

Remember the BBC is very heavily restricted in what it can currently offer on iPlayer due to it's service licensing arrangements with Ofcom, which are designed to avoid the BBC using its unique funding position to compete unfairly with commercial services.

What the BBC wants to do and what the BBC is able to do are two very different things. (Remember BBC One+1?)
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