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I beleive!
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Take-up of all series was patchy, particularly after the series became classed as an import.
Yorkshire didn't show Joe 90 at all until taking a Central repeat of it in 82. Several regions didn't take Space:1999's second series either, even continuing to repeat only the first series.
Of course The Secret Service only went out in three areas.
Take-up of all series was patchy, particularly after the series became classed as an import.
Yorkshire didn't show Joe 90 at all until taking a Central repeat of it in 82. Several regions didn't take Space:1999's second series either, even continuing to repeat only the first series.
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Do we even know who did take the second series? mind you the wiki page is a complete mess.
WH
Was there an independent production quota in those days? I thought that was a Broadcasting Act 1990 thing. I'm sure programmes were produced by ITC for financial reasons, rather than licensing commitments.
The reason some programmes featured the ATV logo was that, for a period, ITC was a direct subsidiary of ATV. When ATV restructured in the mid-late 60s, both ITC and ATV became separate subsidiaries of Lew Grade's holding company Associated Communications Corporation.
Whataday
Founding member
As I understand it, Fireball XL5, Stingray and Thunderbirds (the initial run at least) were all ITC Productions "in association with" ATV (hence the logo featuring in the credits). This was a fiddle that allowed ATV to tick their independent production quota, while effectively getting the UK ITV operation(s) to underwrite the production of a programme intended for sale to the US.
Was there an independent production quota in those days? I thought that was a Broadcasting Act 1990 thing. I'm sure programmes were produced by ITC for financial reasons, rather than licensing commitments.
The reason some programmes featured the ATV logo was that, for a period, ITC was a direct subsidiary of ATV. When ATV restructured in the mid-late 60s, both ITC and ATV became separate subsidiaries of Lew Grade's holding company Associated Communications Corporation.
IN
Was there an independent production quota in those days? I thought that was a Broadcasting Act 1990 thing. I'm sure programmes were produced by ITC for financial reasons, rather than licensing commitments.
The reason some programmes featured the ATV logo was that, for a period, ITC was a direct subsidiary of ATV. When ATV restructured in the mid-late 60s, both ITC and ATV became separate subsidiaries of Lew Grade's holding company Associated Communications Corporation.
My understanding was that they made loose commitments prior to that, though. The Avengers was always an independent production, for instance.
The structure of ACC has never really made sense to me to be honest. Why did ATV end up with a music division, for example?!
As I understand it, Fireball XL5, Stingray and Thunderbirds (the initial run at least) were all ITC Productions "in association with" ATV (hence the logo featuring in the credits). This was a fiddle that allowed ATV to tick their independent production quota, while effectively getting the UK ITV operation(s) to underwrite the production of a programme intended for sale to the US.
Was there an independent production quota in those days? I thought that was a Broadcasting Act 1990 thing. I'm sure programmes were produced by ITC for financial reasons, rather than licensing commitments.
The reason some programmes featured the ATV logo was that, for a period, ITC was a direct subsidiary of ATV. When ATV restructured in the mid-late 60s, both ITC and ATV became separate subsidiaries of Lew Grade's holding company Associated Communications Corporation.
My understanding was that they made loose commitments prior to that, though. The Avengers was always an independent production, for instance.
The structure of ACC has never really made sense to me to be honest. Why did ATV end up with a music division, for example?!
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This might help:
How the company come about@
The company was formed from the merger of the Associated Broadcasting Development Company (ABDC) under the control of Norman Collins, and the Incorporated Television Programme Company (ITC) under the control of Prince Littler and Lew Grade, two showbusiness agents.
Both companies had applied for a contract to become one of the new ITV stations. ABDC won the contract but had insufficient money to operate it; ITC failed to win a contract, mainly due to a perceived conflicts of interest resulting from the business operations of Grade and Littler. By the time of the merger ABDC were well advanced with their plans whilst ITPC planned to operate as an independent producer selling their shows to the new network contractors.
When financial problems hit ABDC, the Independent Television Authority, the governing body of ITV, invited Grade and Littler to join the ABDC consortium. This provided the money required and put Littler and Grade in control of the new company, sidelining Collins.
The new company was originally named the Associated Broadcasting Company (ABC), but Associated British Corporation's parent company, which wished to call their station ABC and ran a large chain of cinemas under those initials, successfully sued for prior ownership of the name. After ABC had been operating for three weeks the name was changed to Associated TeleVision Ltd (ATV). The logo, designed for ABC and tweaked for ATV, was a "shadowed eye" inspired by the CBS logo and reputedly designed by Lew Grade on a transatlantic flight back from the US. The logo is one of the most recognisable in broadcasting.
How ATV muisc come about
How the company come about@
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The company was formed from the merger of the Associated Broadcasting Development Company (ABDC) under the control of Norman Collins, and the Incorporated Television Programme Company (ITC) under the control of Prince Littler and Lew Grade, two showbusiness agents.
Both companies had applied for a contract to become one of the new ITV stations. ABDC won the contract but had insufficient money to operate it; ITC failed to win a contract, mainly due to a perceived conflicts of interest resulting from the business operations of Grade and Littler. By the time of the merger ABDC were well advanced with their plans whilst ITPC planned to operate as an independent producer selling their shows to the new network contractors.
When financial problems hit ABDC, the Independent Television Authority, the governing body of ITV, invited Grade and Littler to join the ABDC consortium. This provided the money required and put Littler and Grade in control of the new company, sidelining Collins.
The new company was originally named the Associated Broadcasting Company (ABC), but Associated British Corporation's parent company, which wished to call their station ABC and ran a large chain of cinemas under those initials, successfully sued for prior ownership of the name. After ABC had been operating for three weeks the name was changed to Associated TeleVision Ltd (ATV). The logo, designed for ABC and tweaked for ATV, was a "shadowed eye" inspired by the CBS logo and reputedly designed by Lew Grade on a transatlantic flight back from the US. The logo is one of the most recognisable in broadcasting.
How ATV muisc come about
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As a side note to ATV's television activities, the company also set up a music publishing division. This was known as ATV Music and existed initially to publish TV-related music, such as theme tunes, composed by its in-house composers. It was formed after ATV acquired a substantial share of Pye Records.[25] This company was eventually split away from the parent company and went through numerous different owners as well as buying into other established music publishers including Northern Songs, which was the Beatles' publishing company. ATV Music eventually settled into the hands of Michael Jackson before being merged into Sony/ATV Music Publishing.
WH
ATV Music was initially set up for commercial releases of TV related music such as theme tunes. By the time it bought The Beatles' back catalogue it was a separate company but kept the name.
EDIT: I see the above post has been edited to include this information.
Whataday
Founding member
The structure of ACC has never really made sense to me to be honest. Why did ATV end up with a music division, for example?!
ATV Music was initially set up for commercial releases of TV related music such as theme tunes. By the time it bought The Beatles' back catalogue it was a separate company but kept the name.
EDIT: I see the above post has been edited to include this information.
NW
I was always remember CD:UK being separate, to the point where it was always introduced with a Granada ident as a normal programme, like The Chart Show.
When was CD:UK start to be no longer CiTV branded? At one point the old CiTV morning DOG was there but it was dropped for a CD:UK one later on.
I was always remember CD:UK being separate, to the point where it was always introduced with a Granada ident as a normal programme, like The Chart Show.
VM
I was always remember CD:UK being separate, to the point where it was always introduced with a Granada ident as a normal programme, like The Chart Show.
Yes, although SM:TV would always end as if they were simply going into another break, no end credits or anything, the only difference being Ant, Dec and Cat using their CD:UK mics in the last link (and the last line would always be "You know where it's at!").
When was CD:UK start to be no longer CiTV branded? At one point the old CiTV morning DOG was there but it was dropped for a CD:UK one later on.
I was always remember CD:UK being separate, to the point where it was always introduced with a Granada ident as a normal programme, like The Chart Show.
Yes, although SM:TV would always end as if they were simply going into another break, no end credits or anything, the only difference being Ant, Dec and Cat using their CD:UK mics in the last link (and the last line would always be "You know where it's at!").
MT
I was always remember CD:UK being separate, to the point where it was always introduced with a Granada ident as a normal programme, like The Chart Show.
Yes, although SM:TV would always end as if they were simply going into another break, no end credits or anything, the only difference being Ant, Dec and Cat using their CD:UK mics in the last link (and the last line would always be "You know where it's at!").
Yup, there would be a trail or a music video at the end of SM:TV, and then the above happened.
I had a quick look around and it appears that the CiTV DOG was dropped from CD:UK about when Ant and Dec left, but the trail would still appear. I think when Ministry of Mayhem started was when it was then not a part of CiTV at all.
When was CD:UK start to be no longer CiTV branded? At one point the old CiTV morning DOG was there but it was dropped for a CD:UK one later on.
I was always remember CD:UK being separate, to the point where it was always introduced with a Granada ident as a normal programme, like The Chart Show.
Yes, although SM:TV would always end as if they were simply going into another break, no end credits or anything, the only difference being Ant, Dec and Cat using their CD:UK mics in the last link (and the last line would always be "You know where it's at!").
Yup, there would be a trail or a music video at the end of SM:TV, and then the above happened.
I had a quick look around and it appears that the CiTV DOG was dropped from CD:UK about when Ant and Dec left, but the trail would still appear. I think when Ministry of Mayhem started was when it was then not a part of CiTV at all.