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FA
fanoftv
Ben posted:
james2001 posted:
Are you sure it's not just like this because of bank holiday? No studio, presumably no links recorded in advance, all they can do is voiceovers.


Yeah I considered that possibility too. Although considering the way CiTV has been for the past year who knows. There were several new 'idents' today though that looked as if they had been created for voiceovers (no loud noise/music).

I read somewhere the other day that ITV were keen to be allowed to reduce the ammount religious, arts and children's programmes in the run-up to the terrestrial switch off. Maybe this is just the start of a long death for CiTV?


It does look as though it is the beginning of the end.
They at first mentioned a channel, then that was a no. Then they mentioned a link up with a satilitte channel, but nothing seems to have happened there either, so what do they do... go back to the old ways.

Nothing against this guy that is doing the voice overs, he seems like a fun guy as he keeps talking loud and operatic every now and then.
What I don't understand is why they can't go to a Puffin's pla(i)ce style thing.

He's having to use the booth to do the voiceovers, so why can't they have him in vision, decorate the booth and do things like that.

If they'd have cut out the amount of times they shown't the new season trailer, and the fillers like the junkyard things, and the art attack mini makes, a reasonable amount of time could have been made.

It's not the same as having a massive studio, but if they have no studio to use, it's better than nothing!

The thing about 1993-98 was that it was different, and was done for cheapness. With ITV selling off all of their assets, they've got enough money to move CiTV and the production team from Birmingham, or build a new studio either onto the current, or in another location and rely the things back to the satilites at Gas Street.

Judging by this morning with new animations, it does look as though it's going to stay like this, which is a shame.
That's the difference between now (2004) and then (1993), kids want more, and they can get it elsewhere.

CiTV got really popular around 2000 for it's interactivness, kids could text, email, got to the website, and even phone and get a message on TV, if anything went wrong they were there to tell them how bad it looked.

Now they can't do anything, there's a website, but no one around to relate with. If they sent anything to them it wouldn't get a mention as they've filled it full of fillers, shows that are too long and no human live contact for the viewers.

I know which era I'd prefer as a child.
NW
nwtv2003
I actually watched most of CiTV today and I can say how different it was, it seems that they're using an ident that they will use to do V/O's and announcements, but it felt like a normal TV ident, as they always said 'Now on CiTV...'

They've probably managed to get back to Gas Street studios, but they don't have a studio.
FA
fanoftv
nwtv2003 posted:
I actually watched most of CiTV today and I can say how different it was, it seems that they're using an ident that they will use to do V/O's and announcements, but it felt like a normal TV ident, as they always said 'Now on CiTV...'

They've probably managed to get back to Gas Street studios, but they don't have a studio.


Get back? Where've they been?

We do know why Andy said 'bye' and Laura said ' see you soon' on friday afternoon.

I still didn't like it. It felt like daytime on a satilitte channel.
It's very selfish of Central News though having the big studio converted and also using the old basement studio for the CSO bulletins, and the reception for the main show.

Actually we should blame Charles Allen for shutting down Nottingham, and not building a smaller studio/s for Nottingham so that East moves into West, so the studio is now going to be two, and no room for CiTV.

Why East just couldn't move into the current West CSO I don't know, therefore CiTV could have kept their set and it wouldn't have caused as much mess.
BE
Ben Founding member
I like the idea of sticking a camera in the booth, myself. They could put a little monitor to the left of the screen, maybe stick up some pictures on the wall. They could even give it a nickname, the broomcupboard maybe Laughing

I never watched CiTV when it was just a voice, back when I was a kid (or when it was presented by Tommy Boyd for that matter, he was too old IMO). I only started watching it when Danielle and Stephen arrived really.

They had a good formula then, if they'd kept it like that they could have kept CiTV as a successful strand even after terrestrial was switched off. The trouble is as time went on I think CiTV's personality got a bit big for itself, it was still good but was loosing the younger viewers.


Just spotted this on the Pinboards - ** swag is no more ** - Thank heavens for small mercies. Laughing
FA
fanoftv
Ben posted:
I like the idea of sticking a camera in the booth, myself. They could put a little monitor to the left of the screen, maybe stick up some pictures on the wall. They could even give it a nickname, the broomcupboard maybe Laughing

I never watched CiTV when it was just a voice, back when I was a kid (or when it was presented by Tommy Boyd for that matter, he was too old IMO). I only started watching it when Danielle and Stephen arrived really.

They had a good formula then, if they'd kept it like that they could have kept CiTV as a successful strand even after terrestrial was switched off. The trouble is as time went on I think CiTV's personality got a bit big for itself, it was still good but was loosing the younger viewers.


Just spotted this on the Pinboards - ** swag is no more ** - Thank heavens for small mercies. Laughing


Stephen and Dannielle were a great partnership, but each wanted to do more work, thus why they bought in other presenters to help them.
I did like their era, along with Tom & Andrea, it was fun and enjoyable, and interactive.

As I've said before I'd like to see CiTV as a show with a few programmes, rather than programmes with a couple of links. More a show of it's own.
Perhaps they should seek a production company like The Foundation, or even Blaze to take on the role.
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
It wouldn't suprise me if today's stuff was pre-recorded as a way of ITV saving money. If it is all pre-recorded they don't have to pay lots of people to come in at bank holiday pay rates.
DJ
DJ Dave
Well ITV have really made a mess of CiTV then, i know back in the 90's i watched CBBC more as there was presenters.
DB
dbl
I'm sorry but, I think CiTV's ambience has been a bit gone downhill, since ITV has a cost cutting mission, CiTV doesn't seem like CiTV anymore.

I think personally if Central/LWT, doesn't have any room , they should go to Maidstone.
FA
fanoftv
DialUpBorg posted:
I'm sorry but, I think CiTV's ambience has been a bit gone downhill, since ITV has a cost cutting mission, CiTV doesn't seem like CiTV anymore.

I think personally if Central/LWT, doesn't have any room , they should go to Maidstone.


Interesting point. They could go to maidstone, the foundation could even take over.

Or they could just keep the current production team and either find another studio, a space that could be converted (like an old shop, where viewers could come and watch the show going on), or go to Manchester as it's not that far from Birmingham!, so they could still live in Birmingham, if they do!

I do like the idea of getting a high street shop and doing it up, have the main floor, ground level as the studio, maybe even open it out like many seem to nowadays (I know my local River Island has), and use other floors as offices and graphics, etc. So that the whole of CiTV moves out of Gas Street, and just uses an OB truck to rely the signal back to Gas Street to broadcast in nationwide.

What does everyone else think to that?
BE
Ben Founding member
I can't see them using a studio that isn't owned by ITV plc, or constructing a new studio either. But it would be a good idea to move to maidstone, alot of CiTV shows have been made there in the past and many still are. They'd be able to have guests from the shows.

If they aren't going to have real presenters then maybe they should have somekind of cartoon character using the same system for Nelly Nut on the CBBC Channel, with voice recoginition to make the mouth move etc. The clever thing with that, he could appear anywear in the world and they wouldn't need any real studio space.
LT
LoveTV!!
Ben posted:
Just spotted this on the Pinboards - ** swag is no more ** - Thank heavens for small mercies. Laughing


Really?!?!? I've been looking at the CiTV pinboards and cannot find anything on that. Could you possibly direct me to that please?

Anyway, I really hope that CiTV doesn't go out-of-vision, if anything I think this is the perfect excuse to go back to the the 2000 setup and have the interactivity, graphics and programmes (especially live ones).
If CiTV was to go back in-vision with the same style as now (well, recently) then I think they shouldn't because its crap but I really hope they will get a new, fun, studio with plenty of interaction, longer links (possibly even with guests) and live programmes (or repeat them).

LoveTV
BE
Ben Founding member
LoveTV!! posted:
Ben posted:
Just spotted this on the Pinboards - ** swag is no more **

Really?!?!? I've been looking at the CiTV pinboards and cannot find anything on that. Could you possibly direct me to that please?


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