Show 3, they cut it, a couple of weeks later they added a plane noise to disguise the jump (quite clever), and it stayed the same til this week.
Sorry but what do you mean the 'jump'. What did they do then?
Thanx.
By Jump, they kept the starting beats, but cut out the verse, so there was an odd jump in the music, and they disguised it by adding a plane noise over the top. Hope you know understand what I mean.
So what does everyone think of MPAA being on EVERYDAY at 4:30pm? Is this a tactic to beat CBBC hands down. Perhaps so people stick with CiTV when they bring in new shows?
It's OK, as MPAA is OK to watch. Though, once again, they are relying on repeats. Not only are they showing MPAA everyday, but from today, they are also showing Sonic X everyday.
At first I thought it would have been used as a ploy so that the Jetix strand on Fox Kids (also showing Sonic X) don't overtake them, but CiTV have gone back to the first episode of Sonic X from today.
Sonic X is now on daily at 3:40 or 3:45 (it varies), with MPAA on daily at 4:30. They also started a re run series of Art Attack from today too. Infact the only new thing on this afternoon was the new series of Engie Bengy.
I can only think of that, the yuk show and the eliminator that are current series and not repeats.
[quote:"Andrew"] This series is also the first showing of Trent, Andy the Freak and Mr Whiteside. And possibly quite sad but I've been wondering about the whole 'how old is Lucy compared to Josh' business and what years they are supposed to be in. In the first series Lucy was apparantly at Primary School and in the second series she's now at secondary school.[/quote]
It's something that's confused me throughout MPAA. Doesn't Lucy have the same uniform though as series 1 though? Thus creating the impression that she is still in primary school?
I think they should move on the kids, at least by a year. Perhaps move Mel onto Sixth Form, if they keep them at that stage any longer, Lucy will be pregnant, Pete'll have a beard, and I Josh may be tall!
Talking about MPAA. they are now in series two and I noticed there are minor changes to the music used on the titles and stings compared to series 1.
That's not the impression I get when looking at my archive tapes that I posted about earlier in the thread. I am pretty sure that the theme I've found (which I believe dates from the first runs of series 1 and 2) is different. I'll have to dig it out to be 100% sure about this but I'm confident the theme on the current re-rerun of Series 1 and 2 is different to the original runs of 1999/2000. I'll find out and let you know.
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A lot of the writing seems much more to the level that we come to expect whereas series 1 felt slightly different, they obviously had major brainstorming sessions before writing the second series. The credits also contain all cast names and not just those that don't feature at the start. Not sure what the endcap says on this series as CITV haven't shown it. Will it still be Granada Media Childrens with a YTV chevron, or was it Granada Kids by now.
One of the endcaps in my archive footage is the YTV chevron in yellow colours with some sort of Granada name on it? Not full screen, squashed into a yellow oval shaped thing.
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This series is also the first showing of Trent, Andy the Freak and Mr Whiteside. And possibly quite sad but I've been wondering about the whole 'how old is Lucy compared to Josh' business and what years they are supposed to be in. In the first series Lucy was apparantly at Primary School and in the second series she's now at secondary school.
Well they did go through the entire "holding you back a year" thing and suggested Josh would be in the same class as Lucy and that was Primary School she was in.
BUT...
They all go to the same school, all three of the kids! Can quite often see one or more of them in the same dining room together or whatever. Unless it's some sort of hybrid "boarding" school type thing that takes anybody from 5-16? :
That's not the impression I get when looking at my archive tapes that I posted about earlier in the thread. I am pretty sure that the theme I've found (which I believe dates from the first runs of series 1 and 2) is different. I'll have to dig it out to be 100% sure about this but I'm confident the theme on the current re-rerun of Series 1 and 2 is different to the original runs of 1999/2000. I'll find out and let you know.
Well its not very different it just seems to be that series 1 uses a slightly different arrangement
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One of the endcaps in my archive footage is the YTV chevron in yellow colours with some sort of Granada name on it? Not full screen, squashed into a yellow oval shaped thing.
That's "Granada Media Childrens" which series 1 definally has as CITV did the unusual thing of leaving the credits up full screen once last week. So far during series 2 they've shown the credits squashed as ever but annoyingly removed them all together before they reach the end
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Well they did go through the entire "holding you back a year" thing and suggested Josh would be in the same class as Lucy and that was Primary School she was in. BUT... They all go to the same school, all three of the kids! Can quite often see one or more of them in the same dining room together or whatever. Unless it's some sort of hybrid "boarding" school type thing that takes anybody from 5-16? :
I don't think Lucy was seen at school with Josh during series 1. Also that Mikey one seemed to disappear half way through series 1 and not even make it to the end. Josh and co were taught by Mrs Hardman. Then in series 2 it looked like Josh and co were now being taught by Mr Whiteside and Lucy was now with Mrs Hardman, which would make sense if they were one year apart. I know in secondary school you have different teachers for different subjects but on TV this generally isn't followed.
Something which definally is a bit of an error. In an episode of series 2, the one with the chess, Mr Whiteside knows Lucy. But then in series 4 or 5, he takes Lucy's class, doesn't know her at all and being 'Josh's teacher' thinks she's a troublemaker, so they just forgot about that earlier series 2 bit there!
I attended a TVYP course today in London. It stands for TV and Young People. I met Lizo there, two blokes off Hollyoaks and aload of CBBC staff.
One man I met, was incharge of TOTP Saturday. We discussed alot about saturday shows, a few things he mentioned...
Live and Kicking on its hay day got 3 to 4 million viewers!
TOTP Saturday is filmed on Thursday. The studio is put up on Wednesday and taken down after Friday's live show. It's pre-recorded becuase the set's so fragile or something.
Dick n Dom never got offered anything by ITV. It was speculation because Nigel went back to ITV and it was thought that he would bring them to ITV.
He thinks The Mysti Show is terrible and I was telling him everyone does.
The Saturday Show is at 8:30am because they've realised kids are up at that time.
I'd like to have told him that I dislike the way he adds the filmic effect to all the performances. I don't see why it's needed, the main TOTP doesn't do it.
Ministry of Mayhem do that with their performances. If you watch quick enough you can see film effect turn off after the performance when they cut to another camera.
I spotted once they forgot to turn it off after a performance and it was still there for about 15 seconds of Stephen's link. Not sure why do though. I don't recall SM:TV ever using it on performances (they did on some sketches obviously- though I noticed on some early Dec Says sketches they added film grain and scratches, but didn't actually use the filmic effect!), and CD:UK only use it rarely.
I persoanlly still don't think MoM is anywhere near as good as SM:TV was. It's missing a lot, and I'm not just referring to games and sketches, there was also the chemistry between presenters (I found this apparent pretty much throught until Tess left) which is missing as well. Other things too such as the "live" feeling. SM:TV clearly was live and the unexpected was always hapenning (many things which happenned, the presenters weren't expecting. Whereas pretty much everything on MoM is pre-meditated even if the cast act suprised), line fluffs and bursting into laughter were common. It gave the show some character, which MoM finds itself lacking. Still, it's miles better than The Mysti Show.
if anyones interested in the band who do the MoM theme tune then let me know because i know them. its written by busted's songwriter and is going to be redone by another band soon
I spotted once they forgot to turn it off after a performance and it was still there for about 15 seconds of Stephen's link. Not sure why do though. I don't recall SM:TV ever using it on performances (they did on some sketches obviously- though I noticed on some early Dec Says sketches they added film grain and scratches, but didn't actually use the filmic effect!), and CD:UK only use it rarely.
I persoanlly still don't think MoM is anywhere near as good as SM:TV was. It's missing a lot, and I'm not just referring to games and sketches, there was also the chemistry between presenters (I found this apparent pretty much throught until Tess left) which is missing as well. Other things too such as the "live" feeling. SM:TV clearly was live and the unexpected was always hapenning (many things which happenned, the presenters weren't expecting. Whereas pretty much everything on MoM is pre-meditated even if the cast act suprised), line fluffs and bursting into laughter were common. It gave the show some character, which MoM finds itself lacking. Still, it's miles better than The Mysti Show.
I'm not sure, the ministry has come on a long way since it started.
They are missing items, and having three shows doesn't help that, though the chemistry between the three of them seems to be great. The best place to see this is in the post room when they get to actually do and say what they want to (if only they would let them do this throughout!). Stephen tends to be surprised and laughing a lot throughout the doctor in the lab stuff, which is good to see. They could set them up more.
Though there weren't that many set ups during SM:tv Live, a couple of times yes, but the majority was rehersed throughout the friday and early saturday morning, and what went Live was often fluffed and adlibbed through the fantastic presenting talents of Ant & Dec.
I wouldn't say that Stephen, Holly & Michael were any less capable, it's the fact that they aren't allowed. After most programme parts they do a quick link to the break, and that's it, there's so much that they could try, they could only be done by Ofcom, but that's it. How come so many programmes don't take risks until it's been decided that they'll go off air?
[quote:"hypomayhem"] if anyones interested in the band who do the MoM theme tune then let me know because i know them. its written by busted's songwriter and is going to be redone by another band soon [/quote]
Interesting. I presume they will re do it for if they relaunch, in which most shows do in the autumn.
I spotted once they forgot to turn it off after a performance and it was still there for about 15 seconds of Stephen's link. Not sure why do though. I don't recall SM:TV ever using it on performances (they did on some sketches obviously- though I noticed on some early Dec Says sketches they added film grain and scratches, but didn't actually use the filmic effect!), and CD:UK only use it rarely.
I persoanlly still don't think MoM is anywhere near as good as SM:TV was. It's missing a lot, and I'm not just referring to games and sketches, there was also the chemistry between presenters (I found this apparent pretty much throught until Tess left) which is missing as well. Other things too such as the "live" feeling. SM:TV clearly was live and the unexpected was always hapenning (many things which happenned, the presenters weren't expecting. Whereas pretty much everything on MoM is pre-meditated even if the cast act suprised), line fluffs and bursting into laughter were common. It gave the show some character, which MoM finds itself lacking. Still, it's miles better than The Mysti Show.
I'm not sure, the ministry has come on a long way since it started.
They are missing items, and having three shows doesn't help that, though the chemistry between the three of them seems to be great. The best place to see this is in the post room when they get to actually do and say what they want to (if only they would let them do this throughout!). Stephen tends to be surprised and laughing a lot throughout the doctor in the lab stuff, which is good to see. They could set them up more.
Though there weren't that many set ups during SM:tv Live, a couple of times yes, but the majority was rehersed throughout the friday and early saturday morning, and what went Live was often fluffed and adlibbed through the fantastic presenting talents of Ant & Dec.
I wouldn't say that Stephen, Holly & Michael were any less capable, it's the fact that they aren't allowed. After most programme parts they do a quick link to the break, and that's it, there's so much that they could try, they could only be done by Ofcom, but that's it. How come so many programmes don't take risks until it's been decided that they'll go off air?
[quote:"hypomayhem"] if anyones interested in the band who do the MoM theme tune then let me know because i know them. its written by busted's songwriter and is going to be redone by another band soon [/quote]
Interesting. I presume they will re do it for if they relaunch, in which most shows do in the autumn.
I spotted once they forgot to turn it off after a performance and it was still there for about 15 seconds of Stephen's link. Not sure why do though. I don't recall SM:TV ever using it on performances (they did on some sketches obviously- though I noticed on some early Dec Says sketches they added film grain and scratches, but didn't actually use the filmic effect!), and CD:UK only use it rarely.
I persoanlly still don't think MoM is anywhere near as good as SM:TV was. It's missing a lot, and I'm not just referring to games and sketches, there was also the chemistry between presenters (I found this apparent pretty much throught until Tess left) which is missing as well. Other things too such as the "live" feeling. SM:TV clearly was live and the unexpected was always hapenning (many things which happenned, the presenters weren't expecting. Whereas pretty much everything on MoM is pre-meditated even if the cast act suprised), line fluffs and bursting into laughter were common. It gave the show some character, which MoM finds itself lacking. Still, it's miles better than The Mysti Show.
I've been working the last few weekends, so haven't had a chance to see it recently until today, and I don't agree.
I thought it seemed less scripted than earlier shows and I think the presenters seem to get on well...granted they're not Ant, Dec and Cat but I like them.
Also SMTV always had the script written on cards that they used to quite obviously read from below camera, so i don't know why you think it was so unplanned?
Caught some of the Saturday Show today and didn't think it was too bad, although felt a bit dead compared to D&D. Felt a bit like MoM but without budget.