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A former member
Let's hope they've learnt from those experiences!
Does anyone have the titles of MoM that they could upload onto the forum? My brother has recorded 'Smallville' over the first hour of the show!!
Does anyone have the titles of MoM that they could upload onto the forum? My brother has recorded 'Smallville' over the first hour of the show!!
FA
You should do what I do, take out the little stopper just incase people do record over them. I have learnt after my sister recorded over the first T4.
It'd be quite easy to make the ministry full of mayhem. I could create a show filled with mayhem. All it takes is a few changes, new games, a bit of adult/risky humour (not a bit if blue), just something thats a bit on the edge for adults as well as kids, as simple if parents aren't ding anything then they have to watch it with their kids.
For example, create some new games. Here's 3.
1) The Chicken or the Egg . Go to a farm and record random sequences of chickens about to lay eggs and eggs about to hatch. Stick one of the chicken with one of the egg, and the caller has to guess which comes first 'The Chicken Or The Egg?'.
2) How about a More Tea Vicar type game, where sequences are filmed with Michael being followed by cuddly sheep, the game would be called 'Michael Had Some Little Lambs' . When the callers have watched the V.T. They guess in turn how many sheep they think there were and the presenters say either more sheep or less sheep, the first person to hit the total wins.
3) Stars in Their Pies . The idea is simple. They have two callers and two tables with giant pies on them. The callers pick an audience member to play for them, and then the audience member has to dig into the pies to find as many plastic stars as they can, the most stars win.
To add to the mayhem of this game, whilst the audience members dig into the pies, the crew, audience, presenters and ministry agents have a custard pie/gunge/foam/water fight. If that isn't mayhem I don't know what is!
To start the show they need mayhem. They could get rid of the lift thing under the screen (it's only used for them to enter anyway), and then have an entrance their instead. Then the agents of mayhem, the crew (well some, perhaps not the camera men!), the audience and presenters (presenters and some audience dressed up in costumes different theme each week) run through all entrances and do the dancey bit.
When the music stops each presenter does something, so if they were farmyard animals they'd play a soundeffect as they opened their mouths.
So Michael was a sheep, Stephen a Chicken and Holly dressed as a cow, they would make respectable noises. As the music stops, the mayhem calms down they all say welcome. Perhaps with say Stephen doing a mad over the top rap, and a spin and fake fall with the foam gun men coming and carrying him off as they have a conversation, holly & michael in unison then say, "Here's what's on today's Ministry of Mayhem." (run V.T.)
Then things would go a bit SM:tv, they'd have a chat, say good morning to the bigger audience (now on the balconey), and then say good morning to a celebrity (whose photo would be froze with a rory bremmer style mouth super imposed and funny voice added to say good morning. They'd have a phone jingle, tel you the guests, and then have some mad moments.
Like the scientist pops out of his door with an explosion and a new invention.
The twins take over as VIP hosts and chat madly to the celebs.
Then agents of mayhem could have flashing lights, mission impossible music and set a quic viewer phone competition (better than endless dat door dare!).
Then back to the sofa, a bit more chat, and a way of linking into the programme, say it was the show with new games started with them dressed as farmyard animals. Stephen would talk about the new games, then Holly could chip in...
"Ah. So because of chicken or the egg and michael has some little lambs, that's why you two were dressed as a chicken and a lamb. (pause whilst thinking). But why was I dressed as a cow?"
(Michael & Stephen look at Holly, at each other then down the camera and say together) "Here's Tutenstein".
A nice quick start (even though it is all waffle!), but little things, jokes and moments of mayhem would really improve it.
Brand X posted:
Let's hope they've learnt from those experiences!
Does anyone have the titles of MoM that they could upload onto the forum? My brother has recorded 'Smallville' over the first hour of the show!!
Does anyone have the titles of MoM that they could upload onto the forum? My brother has recorded 'Smallville' over the first hour of the show!!
You should do what I do, take out the little stopper just incase people do record over them. I have learnt after my sister recorded over the first T4.
It'd be quite easy to make the ministry full of mayhem. I could create a show filled with mayhem. All it takes is a few changes, new games, a bit of adult/risky humour (not a bit if blue), just something thats a bit on the edge for adults as well as kids, as simple if parents aren't ding anything then they have to watch it with their kids.
For example, create some new games. Here's 3.
1) The Chicken or the Egg . Go to a farm and record random sequences of chickens about to lay eggs and eggs about to hatch. Stick one of the chicken with one of the egg, and the caller has to guess which comes first 'The Chicken Or The Egg?'.
2) How about a More Tea Vicar type game, where sequences are filmed with Michael being followed by cuddly sheep, the game would be called 'Michael Had Some Little Lambs' . When the callers have watched the V.T. They guess in turn how many sheep they think there were and the presenters say either more sheep or less sheep, the first person to hit the total wins.
3) Stars in Their Pies . The idea is simple. They have two callers and two tables with giant pies on them. The callers pick an audience member to play for them, and then the audience member has to dig into the pies to find as many plastic stars as they can, the most stars win.
To add to the mayhem of this game, whilst the audience members dig into the pies, the crew, audience, presenters and ministry agents have a custard pie/gunge/foam/water fight. If that isn't mayhem I don't know what is!
To start the show they need mayhem. They could get rid of the lift thing under the screen (it's only used for them to enter anyway), and then have an entrance their instead. Then the agents of mayhem, the crew (well some, perhaps not the camera men!), the audience and presenters (presenters and some audience dressed up in costumes different theme each week) run through all entrances and do the dancey bit.
When the music stops each presenter does something, so if they were farmyard animals they'd play a soundeffect as they opened their mouths.
So Michael was a sheep, Stephen a Chicken and Holly dressed as a cow, they would make respectable noises. As the music stops, the mayhem calms down they all say welcome. Perhaps with say Stephen doing a mad over the top rap, and a spin and fake fall with the foam gun men coming and carrying him off as they have a conversation, holly & michael in unison then say, "Here's what's on today's Ministry of Mayhem." (run V.T.)
Then things would go a bit SM:tv, they'd have a chat, say good morning to the bigger audience (now on the balconey), and then say good morning to a celebrity (whose photo would be froze with a rory bremmer style mouth super imposed and funny voice added to say good morning. They'd have a phone jingle, tel you the guests, and then have some mad moments.
Like the scientist pops out of his door with an explosion and a new invention.
The twins take over as VIP hosts and chat madly to the celebs.
Then agents of mayhem could have flashing lights, mission impossible music and set a quic viewer phone competition (better than endless dat door dare!).
Then back to the sofa, a bit more chat, and a way of linking into the programme, say it was the show with new games started with them dressed as farmyard animals. Stephen would talk about the new games, then Holly could chip in...
"Ah. So because of chicken or the egg and michael has some little lambs, that's why you two were dressed as a chicken and a lamb. (pause whilst thinking). But why was I dressed as a cow?"
(Michael & Stephen look at Holly, at each other then down the camera and say together) "Here's Tutenstein".
A nice quick start (even though it is all waffle!), but little things, jokes and moments of mayhem would really improve it.
JA
james2001
Founding member
Those ideas are definatly very good & would easily improve the show, let's hope someone from the show is reading and taking them on board. Though personally, as I've already said, unless some real better use for them can be found, I would ditch the agents & the twins- what they are doign now (the agents walking round, squiring people randomly, and the twins sitting on the phones) is very repetitive & will get boring quickly. Oh, and ditch Tutenstein as well, the first few minutes looked promising, but it got more boring as the show moved on, it doesn't look like it will be getting any better. Run the remaining eps of Sabrina instead.
I leant to dot at when I was about 10 as my Mum had a tendancy to take our videos and record on them (and if they had a sticker with "do not touch" on it, she'd peel it off and pretend the tape had gone missing), and even then she had the tendancy to put sellotape over the hole. She probabally still would, but I decided to keep all the videos I want to keep (plus some I don't) in my room. Heck, very recently my sister nearly taped over a video with a 1985 BBC1 closedown on, saying after the film on the vid (Back to The Future BTW), all that was on it was "a thing that said BBC1"- and I'd snapped the tab off about 5 years earlier.
Though I'm considering taping over some of my tapes- I don't need hours of Test Card footage- only snippets, old football matches when I went off football ages ago, Eps of South Park (that grew old really fast)and loads of other misc rubbish I taped over the years. Most of my videos do consist of music videos, some home video footage & the last three SM:TVs, which are what I do want to keep, but the rest is of little interest to me now- especially the 2 hours or so worth of the Channel 5 test transmissions I taped- what was I thinking? A couple of minutes oft he test signal & one copy of the promo would have been ample.
fanoftv posted:
You should do what I do, take out the little stopper just incase people do record over them. I have learnt after my sister recorded over the first T4.
I leant to dot at when I was about 10 as my Mum had a tendancy to take our videos and record on them (and if they had a sticker with "do not touch" on it, she'd peel it off and pretend the tape had gone missing), and even then she had the tendancy to put sellotape over the hole. She probabally still would, but I decided to keep all the videos I want to keep (plus some I don't) in my room. Heck, very recently my sister nearly taped over a video with a 1985 BBC1 closedown on, saying after the film on the vid (Back to The Future BTW), all that was on it was "a thing that said BBC1"- and I'd snapped the tab off about 5 years earlier.
Though I'm considering taping over some of my tapes- I don't need hours of Test Card footage- only snippets, old football matches when I went off football ages ago, Eps of South Park (that grew old really fast)and loads of other misc rubbish I taped over the years. Most of my videos do consist of music videos, some home video footage & the last three SM:TVs, which are what I do want to keep, but the rest is of little interest to me now- especially the 2 hours or so worth of the Channel 5 test transmissions I taped- what was I thinking? A couple of minutes oft he test signal & one copy of the promo would have been ample.
:-(
A former member
I've just realised something (apologies for being slow) but Ministry of Mayhem is probably going to have crap celebrities on it every week because the decent ones will either be at TOTP Saturday, or miles away in the CD:uk studio... they're never going to be able to have the latest bands on because all the chart stuff will be on TOTP/CD:uk.
JA
james2001
Founding member
TOTP Saturday is far from a threat. If you've seen TOTP Saturday recently it's very clear it's pre-recorded. The whole thing consists of Fearne Cotton in the Star Bar mixed with reports, features & a few performances- all clearly pre-recorded, without an audience & as far as I've seen, all filmic (blech).
FA
They could do link ups with cd:uk like they did with Michelle. But I think I'd prefer to see recorded interviews where Holly would be with them interviewing them.
The show could easily get by without guests. They could do with just a few soap stars and a few pop bands to fill the studio and items. I don't mind seeing novelty pop like the cheeky girls, as they as they are cheesy and entertaining, but if they had blazin squad on, it may be too much. They'd just ruin the show. Especially at the age group they are aiming for.
In the what's on tv article, it said that Michael would be going to premieres. Do you think it would be a good idea to cause mayhem at premieres? Like have a machine at a premiere in the middle of august that created fake snow and blew over the stars arriving. Or should it just be straight forward interviewing the stars?
The show could easily get by without guests. They could do with just a few soap stars and a few pop bands to fill the studio and items. I don't mind seeing novelty pop like the cheeky girls, as they as they are cheesy and entertaining, but if they had blazin squad on, it may be too much. They'd just ruin the show. Especially at the age group they are aiming for.
In the what's on tv article, it said that Michael would be going to premieres. Do you think it would be a good idea to cause mayhem at premieres? Like have a machine at a premiere in the middle of august that created fake snow and blew over the stars arriving. Or should it just be straight forward interviewing the stars?
JA
james2001
Founding member
I've just had another flashback about an early episode of SM:TV, it was either in episode 2 or episode 3 (fanoftv- you have ep 3 on tape, could you spin through it and see if it's on there?). It was at the start of the I Am Weasel ep they showed. Anyone who's seen the show will know the opening titles being with the words "you don't need pants for the victory dance" (just like the Red Guy in Cow & Chicken (as I AM Weasel was a section of C & C), many of the jokes about I R Baboon in I Am Weasel were centered around his arse! Quite clear the cartoon isn't really oriented at children........ No wonder I love it), and after that, the picture froze and it went back to the studio with Ant & Dec having a bit of a laugh about that line and wondering what it actually meant before going back to the cartoon. They seemed to do quite a fair bit of that sort of thing in the early days, on the later shows you wouldn't have caught them interrupting a show to comment on something about it.
JA
james2001
Founding member
Just seen this on digitalspy: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds13003.html
Only half a million viewers? Ouch! Then again Dick & Dom only had 900,000. Even Dick & Dom are far off SM:TVs glory days with over 2 million viewers.
Only half a million viewers? Ouch! Then again Dick & Dom only had 900,000. Even Dick & Dom are far off SM:TVs glory days with over 2 million viewers.
:-(
Well,now that CD:UK is at Riverside Studios,about 5 minutes away from the BBC,now both shows can possibly have the SAME Guests at different time-yay!!
A former member
chrisb posted:
I've just realised something (apologies for being slow) but Ministry of Mayhem is probably going to have crap celebrities on it every week because the decent ones will either be at TOTP Saturday, or miles away in the CD:uk studio... they're never going to be able to have the latest bands on because all the chart stuff will be on TOTP/CD:uk.
Well,now that CD:UK is at Riverside Studios,about 5 minutes away from the BBC,now both shows can possibly have the SAME Guests at different time-yay!!
FA
Well,now that CD:UK is at Riverside Studios,about 5 minutes away from the BBC,now both shows can possibly have the SAME Guests at different time-yay!!
As James gas already pointed out, TOTP Saturday is all pre recorded. Many of the cd:uk performances are prerecorded, especially the american artists. Cat's links and the hotshots review and some performances remain live.
It's Episode 3. They finish playing Wonkey Donkey, and unfortunately for Dec the link into I am Weasel used part of the Wonkey Donkey. So he said it in a wierd way. They played the short SM:tv V.T. The titles started 'You don't need pants for the Victory Dance' then Ant & Dec shouted 'Can we stop the tape please'. With the convo going:
Dec: "You don't need pants for the victory dance, what does that mean?"
Ant: "It's simple. If you've got a red bum like that, why hide it?"
Dec then goes on saying how it's rude and vulgar, with Ant denying it. Eventually Ant turns around and has what looked like 2 red Christmas pudding basins tied around the top of each of each thigh. Dec, Cat and the crew then shouted 'Ant's got a red bum' repeatidly, with Ant going toward the camera and saying put the cartoon back on.
Is that what you were on about?
Just seen this on digitalspy: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds13003.html
[quote="james2001]Only half a million viewers? Ouch! Then again Dick & Dom only had 900,000. Even Dick & Dom are far off SM:TVs glory days with over 2 million viewers. [/quote]
I'd heard this. It took ages for SM:tv to get the figures. I'm sure up against Zoe & Jamie on Live & Kicking they weren't even getting 500 000 when it first started. The main reason why people started to watch was due to Fully Booked being on Sunday Mornings. And this meant that BBC One had Planet Saturday, this worked before against itv's mashed but against SM:tv it wasn't so strong. SM:tv's strength grew as Zoe & Jamie had left Live & Kicking, people didn't like Steve & Emma as much and looked toward Ant, Dec, Cat and SM:tv Live, which grew in strength and totally ruined the replacement for Fully Booked when the decision to air FBi on a Saturday was made.
It'll be interesting to see how people take to a mayhem, which is basically a mixture of SM:tv/the saturday show/dick & dom. Especially when The Saturday Show returns and the mayhem is lost from BBC One. I think they need mayhem, but not as much as dick & dom, and trying to keep it as funny, entertaining, quick, and SM:tv like as they can with the added mayhem. So the ideal show would be to take SM:tv and add something better to all elements, add mayhem, and make it flow, but quickly so there is no time to stop and just have a rest whilst introducing the next show. That's my main worry, it was all too calm and slow moving for something that was supposed to be mayhem.
And they also need some top writers that they can hang onto.
smtvfreak_2 posted:
chrisb posted:
I've just realised something (apologies for being slow) but Ministry of Mayhem is probably going to have crap celebrities on it every week because the decent ones will either be at TOTP Saturday, or miles away in the CD:uk studio... they're never going to be able to have the latest bands on because all the chart stuff will be on TOTP/CD:uk.
Well,now that CD:UK is at Riverside Studios,about 5 minutes away from the BBC,now both shows can possibly have the SAME Guests at different time-yay!!
As James gas already pointed out, TOTP Saturday is all pre recorded. Many of the cd:uk performances are prerecorded, especially the american artists. Cat's links and the hotshots review and some performances remain live.
james2001 posted:
I've just had another flashback about an early episode of SM:TV, it was either in episode 2 or episode 3 (fanoftv- you have ep 3 on tape, could you spin through it and see if it's on there?). It was at the start of the I Am Weasel ep they showed. Anyone who's seen the show will know the opening titles being with the words "you don't need pants for the victory dance" (just like the Red Guy in Cow & Chicken (as I AM Weasel was a section of C & C), many of the jokes about I R Baboon in I Am Weasel were centered around his arse! Quite clear the cartoon isn't really oriented at children........ No wonder I love it), and after that, the picture froze and it went back to the studio with Ant & Dec having a bit of a laugh about that line and wondering what it actually meant before going back to the cartoon. They seemed to do quite a fair bit of that sort of thing in the early days, on the later shows you wouldn't have caught them interrupting a show to comment on something about it.
It's Episode 3. They finish playing Wonkey Donkey, and unfortunately for Dec the link into I am Weasel used part of the Wonkey Donkey. So he said it in a wierd way. They played the short SM:tv V.T. The titles started 'You don't need pants for the Victory Dance' then Ant & Dec shouted 'Can we stop the tape please'. With the convo going:
Dec: "You don't need pants for the victory dance, what does that mean?"
Ant: "It's simple. If you've got a red bum like that, why hide it?"
Dec then goes on saying how it's rude and vulgar, with Ant denying it. Eventually Ant turns around and has what looked like 2 red Christmas pudding basins tied around the top of each of each thigh. Dec, Cat and the crew then shouted 'Ant's got a red bum' repeatidly, with Ant going toward the camera and saying put the cartoon back on.
Is that what you were on about?
Just seen this on digitalspy: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds13003.html
[quote="james2001]Only half a million viewers? Ouch! Then again Dick & Dom only had 900,000. Even Dick & Dom are far off SM:TVs glory days with over 2 million viewers. [/quote]
I'd heard this. It took ages for SM:tv to get the figures. I'm sure up against Zoe & Jamie on Live & Kicking they weren't even getting 500 000 when it first started. The main reason why people started to watch was due to Fully Booked being on Sunday Mornings. And this meant that BBC One had Planet Saturday, this worked before against itv's mashed but against SM:tv it wasn't so strong. SM:tv's strength grew as Zoe & Jamie had left Live & Kicking, people didn't like Steve & Emma as much and looked toward Ant, Dec, Cat and SM:tv Live, which grew in strength and totally ruined the replacement for Fully Booked when the decision to air FBi on a Saturday was made.
It'll be interesting to see how people take to a mayhem, which is basically a mixture of SM:tv/the saturday show/dick & dom. Especially when The Saturday Show returns and the mayhem is lost from BBC One. I think they need mayhem, but not as much as dick & dom, and trying to keep it as funny, entertaining, quick, and SM:tv like as they can with the added mayhem. So the ideal show would be to take SM:tv and add something better to all elements, add mayhem, and make it flow, but quickly so there is no time to stop and just have a rest whilst introducing the next show. That's my main worry, it was all too calm and slow moving for something that was supposed to be mayhem.
And they also need some top writers that they can hang onto.
JA
Yep, that's exactally it! It's funny how something small like that which I never took much notice of at the time I can still remember after over 5 years! Though of course it's rude & vulgar, like Dec said! That's what Cow & Chicken and I Am Weasel were all about! There's no wonder I liked them so much, it's just a shame that neither cartoons are showing anywhere at the moment.
james2001
Founding member
fanoftv posted:
It's Episode 3. They finish playing Wonkey Donkey, and unfortunately for Dec the link into I am Weasel used part of the Wonkey Donkey. So he said it in a wierd way. They played the short SM:tv V.T. The titles started 'You don't need pants for the Victory Dance' then Ant & Dec shouted 'Can we stop the tape please'. With the convo going:
Dec: "You don't need pants for the victory dance, what does that mean?"
Ant: "It's simple. If you've got a red bum like that, why hide it?"
Dec then goes on saying how it's rude and vulgar, with Ant denying it. Eventually Ant turns around and has what looked like 2 red Christmas pudding basins tied around the top of each of each thigh. Dec, Cat and the crew then shouted 'Ant's got a red bum' repeatidly, with Ant going toward the camera and saying put the cartoon back on.
Is that what you were on about?
Dec: "You don't need pants for the victory dance, what does that mean?"
Ant: "It's simple. If you've got a red bum like that, why hide it?"
Dec then goes on saying how it's rude and vulgar, with Ant denying it. Eventually Ant turns around and has what looked like 2 red Christmas pudding basins tied around the top of each of each thigh. Dec, Cat and the crew then shouted 'Ant's got a red bum' repeatidly, with Ant going toward the camera and saying put the cartoon back on.
Is that what you were on about?
Yep, that's exactally it! It's funny how something small like that which I never took much notice of at the time I can still remember after over 5 years! Though of course it's rude & vulgar, like Dec said! That's what Cow & Chicken and I Am Weasel were all about! There's no wonder I liked them so much, it's just a shame that neither cartoons are showing anywhere at the moment.