CITV on ITV1 Thread

If ITV want the children of the future to continue to watch their stations (whether it be ITV1,2,3,4,5.............), then investment in programmes for them is ver necessary, instead of just US imports. I mean look at it even the US producers are making children's programmes, and are making a killing from overseas sales due to laziness of television companies in not producing their own! Can you image it BBC, at the moment are taking on the US producers and they are actually making good, quality prgrammes (e.g. Johnny and the Bomb....).
Can you imagine it if ITV started doing the same. Then the UK producers would be able to tackle and even possibly fend off an Americanisation of the adults of the future in this country. This in turn could actually create real decent profits for our producers instead of giving it the big conglomerates in the US

It's not so much as not showing the programs I like as more it's anything that has a ounce of quality is seemenly droped for more crap before more than three episodes are aired and even then you'll be lucky if said crap is cared for with any respect at all (Sonic X has multiple cuts above what 4kids did to it and you know your in trouble if you can do a worse job than 4kids).

You can NOT sit there and say that Capten Scarlet was treeted in a matter fitting the venture and if you can, then I have lost hope for ever geting any thing of quality for brittish television.

well, a good ballance must be made. No man's an Ilsand and all that. Yay for Brittish investment in works, but less Cramp Twins work (You wouldn't think Cramp Twins is a brittish show but it is...)

Not so long ago, Janie Grace was head of CITV and she had worked on many successful series with Nigel Pickard at TVS. She was looking forward to working alongside Nigel in his new role as ITV director of programmes. However, before he arrived she publicly criticised Granada and Carlton for underfunding CITV and her reward was the sack. Once again, viewers paid for a few (rightly) bruised egos.

There's nothing new about this, we've had US imports for years and we've had US programme formats for even longer (The Price Is Right, Finders Keepers, Fun House, Double Dare, Family Fortunes, etc were all based on the American versions).

There never has been anything to stop any American network buying something that's been made in Britain; they just don't want to know because it sometimes works out cheaper to just make something new as opposed to importing something. Even then most of it ends up on BBC America, though there are exceptions - Weakest Link and Millionaire to name but two.



As things stand, there's only one totally American programme orientated channel and that's ABC1. However Disney Channel and Nickelodeon come a close second on the amount of imported programming from their American counterparts.

Most channels are mostly American programming free; even though they may live off a diet of repeats and archive programming. Challenge managed to build itself up on the back of imported Japanese programming (and flog it to death and back) in the form of Takeshi's Castle.

What I am trying to get at is that there is now far too much US imports on CiTV - same could be said about Boomerang, Nick, NickJnr, CN (all US channels), Trouble etc... CiTV (or ITV) have become very lazy and very reliant on imports which is not healthy as there are differences in the same English language! But with a bit more investment the number of imports could be reduced to a miniscule (like during the golden era of cITV 1980's and early 1990's), which meant mainly animation series.

Co-production could also help here, such as early 1990's with Spatz and The Tomorrow People, The Hurricanes, Rupert, etc...

Oh yeah, there's no diagreeing with the fact that we've got an issue of picking a lot of poor quality imports whilst ignoring the good ones, that's true.

What compounds the issue is when we try to emulate the imports, once again, I use Cramp Twins as my example, Brittish cartoon with american production "values" and US voice acting to be competivie in the US market (Incidently, it floped and this fact was made fun of in several places and flash animations).

So, basicly, I say less crap inports and more of the good ones.

The biggest problem that CiTV (or as I used to know it "Watch It!" and cITV) is that it has never recovered from the loss of ratings when it experimented with going stripped programming. This is something that cITV should never have done - it lost lots of original programming and had to be steadied with an increase in imports.

Though not neccessarily profitable in terms of their airings on ITV1, kids programmings have huge potential to make money not just through overseas sales, but more importantly through merchandising.

Come on ITV, think of the money!


Also, it's been announced a Dancing on Ice spin-off will take the 5pm slot from mid-Feb, with You've Been Framed repeats airing at 5.30pm. Surely The Price is Right could air here instead!

Actually 5.00pm YBF! rpts. 5.30 Dancing on ice extra

anyway

there are too many us imports on CiTV, most of CiTV's best shows are english (MPAA, Captain Scarlet, finders keepers etc.).

Just for the record, is this before or after Reboot? My memory's fuzzy about that.

Well, I agree on Scarlet and Finders Keepers but MPAA's isn't exactly what I'd use in a CiTV quality argument.

Also, we're not a complete land of honey and milk, I can name a few duff UK Childrens shows, like a certain show about King Arther, Potatoes and Dragons, and a suprisingly bad Ardmin show that proves they should stick to the playdoh. (Figatvly speaking, I know it's plastacene they use).

Also, Sonic X, as much as I love the blue bomber myself, is a joke as far as Sonic related tomfollery is concerned and should have never been shown on CITV, especaily if they are goign to edit what has aleardy been edited.

Also, like I've said before, it's not about the number of imports, it's about the Quality of said imports, If we were talking Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in the Sonic X issue, there woudl be nothing to aruge about.

Where has this idea that CITV are suddenly relying on imports come from. There doesn't to me seem to be a significant increase compared with other channels or past schedules

Of the 10 programmes that are currently airing after 4pm, 8 out of 10 are UK commissions.

I used to love Sonic when I was younger, but when they started calling Robotnik "Dr. Eggman", I lost interest. Whoever came up with the idea of calling him Eggman must either be 5 years old, or very drunk.