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Documentary being made but where is it going to air? (September 2012)

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A former member
JAS84 posted:
You're wrong, unlike it's predecessor Watch It, CITV was always networked, so maybe what you're remembering is a rerun?


Nope, I was a big fan of Fraggle Rock and know it was never shown during the week. It was always a weekend programme.

I know this for a fact as it was one fo the few occassions the whole family was at home having the evening meal at the dinner table!!!


Sorry you are wrong, it did pop up during the week in 1985. IN 1984 it went out on Saturday afternoons, around 5.05
Formost Fraggle rock hunter for the tapes has the broadcast dates for mid week in 1985: http://www.nightshade.org.uk/fraggleuk.html

to help prove it here is some clips from 6 march 1985:

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By late 1987 it had moved to Sunday mornings.
JJ
Juicy Joe Founding member
JAS84 posted:
You're wrong, unlike it's predecessor Watch It, CITV was always networked, so maybe what you're remembering is a rerun?


Nope, I was a big fan of Fraggle Rock and know it was never shown during the week. It was always a weekend programme.

I know this for a fact as it was one fo the few occassions the whole family was at home having the evening meal at the dinner table!!!


Sorry you are wrong, it did pop up during the week in 1985. IN 1984 it went out on Saturday afternoons, around 5.05
Formost Fraggle rock hunter for the tapes has the broadcast dates for mid week in 1985: http://www.nightshade.org.uk/fraggleuk.html

to help prove it here is some clips from 6 march 1985:

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By late 1987 it had moved to Sunday mornings.


Hey, did you pull those listings off a website 623058 or do you keep old copies of listings magazines?
CA
Cando
John posted:
Very poor - just seemed to be another vehicle for Ant and Dec and Holly Willoughby.


Indeed, it was criminal to dedicate so much time to the dire rip off that was Ministry of Mayhem.
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A former member
Cando posted:
John posted:
Very poor - just seemed to be another vehicle for Ant and Dec and Holly Willoughby.


Indeed, it was criminal to dedicate so much time to the dire rip off that was Ministry of Mayhem.


There should have talked about Whats up Doc, the first ITV sat show to beat the BBC! since Tiswas.
BR
Brekkie
Let's hope some ITV exec got as nostalgic as we all did about it and puts some money CITV's way to allow them to produce more than just new pre-school type programmes. I suspect if they started producing a few shows for older children they'd soon find themselves able to recoup the costs through international sales.

Didn't realise either that How 2 started life as How - always assumed it was "How 2" as in "How to".
AM
amosc100
Let's hope some ITV exec got as nostalgic as we all did about it and puts some money CITV's way to allow them to produce more than just new pre-school type programmes. I suspect if they started producing a few shows for older children they'd soon find themselves able to recoup the costs through international sales.

Didn't realise either that How 2 started life as How - always assumed it was "How 2" as in "How to".


Aye, I remember the original How (made by Southern TV) and Fred Deinage was the only presenter to be in both versions.


Re: Fraggle Rock, thanks for posting that schedule - to be fair possibly due to nostalgia tinted spectacles I still cannot remember Fragggle Rock being on during the week and I was more of a Children's ITV watcher than Children's BBC. Only things I used to watch on BBC were Grange Hill and the other drama's. I also cannot remember Children's BBC being on until 6pm (as seen in the schedule)!!!
JA
JAS84
JAS84 posted:
You're wrong, unlike it's predecessor Watch It, CITV was always networked, so maybe what you're remembering is a rerun?


Nope, I was a big fan of Fraggle Rock and know it was never shown during the week. It was always a weekend programme.

I know this for a fact as it was one fo the few occassions the whole family was at home having the evening meal at the dinner table!!!


Sorry you are wrong, it did pop up during the week in 1985. IN 1984 it went out on Saturday afternoons, around 5.05
Formost Fraggle rock hunter for the tapes has the broadcast dates for mid week in 1985: http://www.nightshade.org.uk/fraggleuk.html

to help prove it here is some clips from 6 march 1985:

*

*

By late 1987 it had moved to Sunday mornings.
Thanks! Smile
NW
nwtv2003
Let's hope some ITV exec got as nostalgic as we all did about it and puts some money CITV's way to allow them to produce more than just new pre-school type programmes. I suspect if they started producing a few shows for older children they'd soon find themselves able to recoup the costs through international sales.

Didn't realise either that How 2 started life as How - always assumed it was "How 2" as in "How to".


Aye, I remember the original How (made by Southern TV) and Fred Deinage was the only presenter to be in both versions.


Indeed, the original How ended when Southern TV did in 1981, it was rebooted in 1990 by TVS, and then by Scottish TV (Enterprises), I used to love How 2, by coincidence this was uploaded to YouTube last night, with clips from this episode being shown on the documentary....



I remember in the late 1990s when they posted their whole website and pages on the end credits, so if you didn't have Internet access you could get your video on record and pause your way through.... how times change.
IS
Inspector Sands
I remember in the late 1990s when they posted their whole website and pages on the end credits, so if you didn't have Internet access you could get your video on record and pause your way through.... how times change.

Several programmes did that in the 90's, they were usually called Databursts. In fact I think there was a comedy show that used them too, Fist of Fun maybe?
PC
Paul Clark
I remember in the late 1990s when they posted their whole website and pages on the end credits, so if you didn't have Internet access you could get your video on record and pause your way through....

Ah yes - I thought that was a great idea!
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A former member
Indeed, the original How ended when Southern TV did in 1981, it was rebooted in 1990 by TVS, and then by Scottish TV (Enterprises), I used to love How 2, by coincidence this was uploaded to YouTube last night, with clips from this episode being shown on the documentary....


Reason why it was not picked up by TVS as there did not want to take on anything from Southern,

I do believe ALL of how 2 belong to STV, from the 3rd series where it become part of STV, along with many of kids programmes, just like Rupert ( 1st series was also TVS, but now in the hands of STV.

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Scottish Television, employed Nigel Pickard taking him to Glasgow and his portfolio of programmes along with him. Nigel NEVER moved to Glasgow he had an office in Maidstone studios, said office stayed until 1995. He left the company a 18 months later.


The deal never did included Art attack I believe
Quote:
When TVS lost its franchise, Edmunds and Buchanan bought the rights to the show and produced Art attack through their company, The Media Merchants. The Media Merchants used STV Productions (then known as "SMG Productions"), as the ITV company to get the series on to network. This was partly down to the fact Nigel Pickard moved to Scottish television. The rights to the STV shows have since reverted back to the copyright holder.


I take it the copyright holders were Neil before he sold it off? Im lead to believe Disney does not control the original series, SO WHO DOES? Disney does hold the format rights.

wee gem from Series 1 of HOW
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Also note that that clip is from that strange period when they went with daily stripped schedules. This meant that they burnt off brand new series within only a week or two which didn't seem like a good idea.


That was when the lady who used to run Nickelodeon at the time, Janie Grace, took over the helm and bought the idea direct from the Nickelodeon schedules. The only problem was it worked fine on Nickelodeon as the schedule was built around mostly imports and the back catalog of its American cousin, with series lengths that went on practically forever and were suited to high rotation (most old-school Nicktoons have a run of at least 50 episodes). Most of not all CITV series were 13 episodes in length and a show only lasted two and a half weeks.

The policy lasted 18 months according to The Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2003/mar/03/broadcasting.ITV posted:
Janie Grace, who was sacked just before [Nigel] Pickard arrived [as director of programming in 2003], only abandoned a failed 18 month attempt to strip and strand CITV last September [2002], though the policy had failed after six months.

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