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AR
Argybargy
With regards to this year's Christmas idents, BBC Two may add another new one (or two) to their selection.

I wonder whether BBC One will have a lockdown-linked Christmas ident this year, in line with what is currently being used for idents during the pandemic. For example, a collage of viewers' Christmas trees.

Then again, they may opt for something to try and take viewers' minds away from the current situation...

From what I'm hearing, I believe it'll be the latter.
AS
Asa Admin
Agreed, except for BBC2. As well as showing all previous years' idents, they usually add a new one to the mix.

There's only been two years of the current idents though, so not much of a precedent. Hope I'm wrong - if they're determined to run it for a month again, they need another news-safe ident otherwise it's just Glamourous over and over. (Not that I'm complaining much, all their Christmas idents are stunning)
TI
TIGHazard
With regards to this year's Christmas idents, BBC Two may add another new one (or two) to their selection.

I wonder whether BBC One will have a lockdown-linked Christmas ident this year, in line with what is currently being used for idents during the pandemic. For example, a collage of viewers' Christmas trees.

Then again, they may opt for something to try and take viewers' minds away from the current situation...

From what I'm hearing, I believe it'll be the latter.


How about both?

Regular idents to take viewers minds away with entertainment programming, but a lockdown linked one for the news, PIF's, etc.
JB
JasonB
Jonwo posted:
Do we think these programmes will be pre-recorded like GMB's 'Best of 2019' special which they did last year on the 27th of December

The chances of any of these shows being live on Christmas Day are very slim.


No one needs to hear Piers and his megaphone on Christmas Day!
BR
Brekkie
Asa posted:
Agreed, except for BBC2. As well as showing all previous years' idents, they usually add a new one to the mix.

There's only been two years of the current idents though, so not much of a precedent. Hope I'm wrong - if they're determined to run it for a month again, they need another news-safe ident otherwise it's just Glamourous over and over. (Not that I'm complaining much, all their Christmas idents are stunning)

I'd go as far as saying all of their idents are stunning - not sure they've had a bad version yet. Would welcome one or two additions to the set though at Christmas, especially as I don't think we've had any this year. I think it is the perfect compromise between using the same set every year and having something new.
CO
Cold Open
Asa posted:

Hope I'm wrong - if they're determined to run it for a month again, they need another news-safe ident otherwise it's just Glamourous over and over.


Ugh. I have despised the often bizarre and seemingly inexplicable official names of the BBC Two curve idents from the moment that they launched. It's like they just picked random words out of the dictionary.

Many/most of the names being mentioned in a sentence do not readily bring to mind which ident is being referred to. Without your helpful hyperlink, I wouldn't have had the first sodding clue which ident "Glamorous" is from the name alone.

Any normal human being (as opposed to a pretentious corporate/marketing/advertising t0ssp0t) would've officially named that one as something like either "Northern Lights" or "Aurora".

And any "average viewers" who might care enough to attribute names to them would make similarly straightforward, logical choices, such as "Rings", "Slinky", "Furry Thing", and "Paint".

I mean... Why the blithering flip is this one called "Sharp Irreverent" of all things, FFS?!?! (I really had to stop myself putting the word "Pi$$ing" into the middle of that name...) - Or, indeed, why is it called *anything whatsoever* other than "Threads"? πŸ™„

/rant

*reaches for medication (and/or gin)*
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AM
Alfie Mulcahy

For the past few years they've hidden Doctor Who on New Years Eve . Really hope it comes back to Christmas Day though.


Since when did broadcasting a programme on New Years Day (as opposed to any other day of the year) constitute it being "hidden"? πŸ€¨πŸ€”


What I'm saying is they moved it from a slot where it is the centre of attention and had held for years to some time around New Year's Eve/Day which gives it less attention. The Christmas Day schedule is far more prestigious and advertised more.
AN
Andrew Founding member

For the past few years they've hidden Doctor Who on New Years Eve . Really hope it comes back to Christmas Day though.


Since when did broadcasting a programme on New Years Day (as opposed to any other day of the year) constitute it being "hidden"? πŸ€¨πŸ€”


What I'm saying is they moved it from a slot where it is the centre of attention and had held for years to some time around New Year's Eve/Day which gives it less attention. The Christmas Day schedule is far more prestigious and advertised more.

In quite a number of recent years, New Year’s Day has been a massive day, with a big programme launching, and big ratings, often higher than on Christmas Day. It also gets advertised heavily all day every day from Boxing Day onwards
IS
Inspector Sands

Ugh. I have despised the often bizarre and seemingly inexplicable official names of the BBC Two curve idents from the moment that they launched. It's like they just picked random words out of the dictionary.

Many/most of the names being mentioned in a sentence do not readily bring to mind which ident is being referred to. Without your helpful hyperlink, I wouldn't have had the first sodding clue which ident "Glamorous" is from the name alone.

Any normal human being (as opposed to a pretentious corporate/marketing/advertising t0ssp0t) would've officially named that one as something like either "Northern Lights" or "Aurora".

And any "average viewers" who might care enough to attribute names to them would make similarly straightforward, logical choices,

I can't tell if you're being funny or if you genuinely don't understand the concept, let alone why they are given names.

Firstly their names aren't for the audience, they're not meant to be back referenced.

They have names that are adjectives not nouns so the media planners and directors can schedule them against programmes according to mood, style and genre.

A 'normal human' asked to name the idents would give different answers depending on if they were asked to describe what it is literally, or describe its attributes and feelings it provokes. That's the differemce between denotation and connotation, and it's not just fancy media guff it's what humans do all the time.

If you're shown a cushion, you don't just think 'it's a cushion' you also think of things like soft, comfy etc

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I mean... Why the blithering flip is this one called "Sharp Irreverent" of all things, FFS?!?! (I really had to stop myself putting the word "Pi$$ing" into the middle of that name...) - Or, indeed, why is it called *anything whatsoever* other than "Threads"? πŸ™„

Look at the programmes it's introduced, and it's fairly obvious why it's called that - they're all clever, sharp witted and irreverent

Have a look at the programmes introduced by Revelatory and you'll see why it's not called Slinky... that's not a word you could use to describe any of them
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GE
thegeek Founding member


Well indeed, New Year's Day is a bloody big telly day as well, given that it's a night virtually nobody goes out (I know that's much difference to any other day this year)

You do raise the point that there's going to be a bit of a hole at midnight - do we get a live shot of a scaffolding-covered Big Ben, and that's it? A repeat of a previous year's fireworks? Perhaps Hootenanny will be bumped up to BBC One, but seeing in the bells (as we'd say in Scotland) is going to be a wee bit different.

I wonder whether BBC One will have a lockdown-linked Christmas ident this year

In another thread, denton (who I have reason to believe) suggests it will not be.
SW
Steve Williams
What I'm saying is they moved it from a slot where it is the centre of attention and had held for years to some time around New Year's Eve/Day which gives it less attention. The Christmas Day schedule is far more prestigious and advertised more.


It's not been "some time around New Year's Eve/Day", it's been New Year's Day. And it certainly wasn't the centre of attention on Christmas Day because there are dozens of other high profile programmes on that day. On New Year's Day it's pretty much the biggest thing on that day and gets appropriate promotion with that in mind. And New Year's Day is a huge day for television with some of the biggest audiences of the year around.

For many people too, Christmas Day is one of the least convenient days to watch television. Certainly I rarely watched Doctor Who live when it was on Christmas Day as so much else was going on, with umpteen kids to entertain and trips to the dinner table. None of that on New Year's Day.
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Argybargy
I too think that New Years Day is actually a much better day for Doctor Who to go out on. Like you, Steve, I don't think I ever actually sat down to watch it live when it used to be shown on Christmas Day. But I am able to do this on New Years Day. It seems to rate very well in that slot, too. It also means there's no longer an obligation to have a festive theme for the episode.
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