The Christmas TV Thread 2012

My point was that Christmas programming was generally Christmassy. You tried to disagree, then ended up agreeing.

No, you originally said that you doubt it would be shown as it isn't very Christmassy..... there was no 'generally' about it.

My point was that that there's no compulsion for programmes on at Christmas to be Christmas related, which your later introduction of the term 'generally' agrees with

Considering the length of the programme, it does not fit into a generally Christmassy schedule.

No it doesn't - I am saying that programmes are Christmassy, with the exception of a small number of programmes. "No compulsion [...] to be Christmas related" insinuates that many are not. I don't agree.

It doesn't fit into a daytime schedule usually made up of 2-3 hour long films? It fits in perfectly on a cash-strapped BBC schedule

But that's different to your original point..... go back and re-read!

Fabrice Muamba and Kelly Brook for Strictly Come Dancing Christmas special - This year's full line-up also includes former winners Kara Tointon, Rachel Stevens, Natasha Kaplinsky and Chris Hollins

In the past the likes of John Barrowman, Charlie Brooks and Darren Gough have lifted the coveted Christmas glitterball trophy, and this year will see a familiar crop of stars taking to the Strictly dance floor.

After revealing his ambitions to do a stint on Strictly Come Dancing to Radio Times in an interview earlier this year, former footballer Fabrice Muamba - who made a miraculous recovery from a cardiac arrest whilst playing for Bolton Wanderers earlier this year - will be pulling on his dancing shoes.

He will be joined by Jonathan 'JB' Gill - one quarter of the all-singing, all-dancing X Factor alumni JLS - who will be putting his moves to the test this Christmas.

The pair will compete against former Strictly stars Rachel Stevens, the 2008 runner-up, last year's second-placed dancer Chelsee Healey, 2010 champion Kara Tointon and the first ever winner, Natasha Kaplinksy.

2007 winner Chris Hollins will also be performing along with 2005 competitor Colin Jackson. Kelly Brook - who had to pull out of the 2007 series following the death of her father - completes this year's line-up.

And with just four weeks to go until the Christmas Day broadcast, the stars are already in training, with Brook tweeting her eagerness to get back into training:

And this Christmas show is particularly special as it marks the legendary Sir Bruce Forsyth's retirement from television

Please? I've always admired Brucie but y'know.. he's becoming like tumble weed this series...

Well I hope you're as able as he is at 84.

Yes I hope I'm hosting a live television show in front of millions and embarrassing myself with bad jokes and mis-reading an autocue instead of playing golf with my mates and taking things easy after having a long distinguished successful 60 year career as an all-round entertainer.