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I would love to see a Paul O'Grady Show Xmas Special. would fit well on Christmas Eve, or even Xmas Day
BR
It's not just the cherry picking, BBC2 has been squeezed out of it's niche by both BBC3 and BBC4, losing alot of both the youth comedy and serious documentaries that built up it's schedule. It's certainly been the terrestrial channel that's suffered the most from the move into digital.
cylon6 posted:
BBC2 just isn't the channel it was. If I was in charge of the BBC the first thing I'd do is top the cherry picking of BBC2 shows by BBC1. BBC1 should develop its own hits, this has denuded BBC2 as the foundations of it's winning schedule were taken away.
It's not just the cherry picking, BBC2 has been squeezed out of it's niche by both BBC3 and BBC4, losing alot of both the youth comedy and serious documentaries that built up it's schedule. It's certainly been the terrestrial channel that's suffered the most from the move into digital.
BI
RE;
NOTW
Christmas listings
Is it really possible that BBC One would show Bridget Jones' Diary seeing as Channel 4 screened the terrestrial premiere of it a short time ago?
Is it really possible that BBC One would show Bridget Jones' Diary seeing as Channel 4 screened the terrestrial premiere of it a short time ago?
BR
It's quite common actually for one broadcaster to have the premiere then others to screen them after.
Not strictly Christmas, but I notice like for Harry Potter on BBC1 last year the ITV1 trailer contains three lines of some copyright text or something that's on air far too short to actually read for Harry Potter 2, which it screens next Saturday.
God knows why Harry Potter is so important that it's the only film I've ever seen this text on when trailed for TV airings.
Also, the trailers are ending with a "ITV Movies sponsored by Motorola" full screen caption.
I presume Rennie are sponsoring Christmas again!
bigbrothereire posted:
RE;
NOTW
Christmas listings
Is it really possible that BBC One would show Bridget Jones' Diary seeing as Channel 4 screened the terrestrial premiere of it a short time ago?
Is it really possible that BBC One would show Bridget Jones' Diary seeing as Channel 4 screened the terrestrial premiere of it a short time ago?
It's quite common actually for one broadcaster to have the premiere then others to screen them after.
Not strictly Christmas, but I notice like for Harry Potter on BBC1 last year the ITV1 trailer contains three lines of some copyright text or something that's on air far too short to actually read for Harry Potter 2, which it screens next Saturday.
God knows why Harry Potter is so important that it's the only film I've ever seen this text on when trailed for TV airings.
Also, the trailers are ending with a "ITV Movies sponsored by Motorola" full screen caption.
I presume Rennie are sponsoring Christmas again!
MA
Is that confirmed or merely a threat?
There one part of that sentence which says alot. GMTV.
bigbrothereire posted:
Is it really possible that BBC One would show Bridget Jones' Diary seeing as Channel 4 screened the terrestrial premiere of it a short time ago?
Is that confirmed or merely a threat?
nok32uk posted:
Tony Christie sang Merry Xmas Everybody on GMTV this morning so looks like Christmas is getting well underway. 
*sings*...is this the way to Santa's Grotto....
*sings*...is this the way to Santa's Grotto....
There one part of that sentence which says alot. GMTV.
WI
So, so spot on Steve. I too used to enjoy BBC2, not just at Christmas but on Saturday afternoons aswell. Christmas to millions of people is a daytime filled with classic movies and to round off the day at 11.30pm or there abouts, another classic movie. Sahara with Michael Palin was repeated on BBC1 in September, why does the BBC feel it is worth repeating again. I do note that Flog It! is also being flogged to death and BBC2 certainly should Flog It! It is becoming BBC2's equivalent to the over shown repeats of Cash in the Attic. Exactly the same bloody format!!!!! I do add though, that Peter Fincham has severely reduced the amount of OFAH on BBC1 and has listened to the public by also threatening to ditch the dancer idents.
It is sickening to think that BBC2 can show repeats of Ready Steady Cook, Sahara, Flog It!, but NOT show such classics as A Wonderful Life, White Christmas and the musical version of Scrooge. I think that if they are unable to provide adequate programming, they should revert back to lunchtime launch and only broadcast until 1.00am. BBC2.....you certainly aint what you used "2" be!!!!!
STEVE 03 posted:
Yes that's right. The fact is BBC2 doesn't have it's own identity like it used too. One other thing about BBC2 which I used to love about this channel was the channel used to dedicate it's daytime schedules to old films. As a lover of the old films, I used to be in my element at Christmas and at Bank Holidays. But over the last couple of years, the BBC2 schedulers have been repeatedly slotting rubbish repeats of documentary series over the Christmas period such as Pole to Pole or Around the World in 80 Days which often dedicated all of the morning schedule.
This year's Christmas schedule has further carried on this trend with not just the morning slots filled with Michael Palin documentaries and wildlife programming but that very boring Flog It! in the afternoons and The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes. I just don't know why BBC2 regard these type of programmes so appealing. I mean at Christmas, rather than show the ordinary everyday programmes, why not treat viewers to films or the odd comedy, even if it is a repeat this is Christmas a time when the schedules once upon a time were supposed to stand out and be completely different to the rest of the year in a good way.
This Christmas, I am disgusted with BBC2's schedule and controller Roly Keating has a lot to answer for, in fact with a schedule like this, the Beeb really should consider replacing him.
This year's Christmas schedule has further carried on this trend with not just the morning slots filled with Michael Palin documentaries and wildlife programming but that very boring Flog It! in the afternoons and The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes. I just don't know why BBC2 regard these type of programmes so appealing. I mean at Christmas, rather than show the ordinary everyday programmes, why not treat viewers to films or the odd comedy, even if it is a repeat this is Christmas a time when the schedules once upon a time were supposed to stand out and be completely different to the rest of the year in a good way.
This Christmas, I am disgusted with BBC2's schedule and controller Roly Keating has a lot to answer for, in fact with a schedule like this, the Beeb really should consider replacing him.
So, so spot on Steve. I too used to enjoy BBC2, not just at Christmas but on Saturday afternoons aswell. Christmas to millions of people is a daytime filled with classic movies and to round off the day at 11.30pm or there abouts, another classic movie. Sahara with Michael Palin was repeated on BBC1 in September, why does the BBC feel it is worth repeating again. I do note that Flog It! is also being flogged to death and BBC2 certainly should Flog It! It is becoming BBC2's equivalent to the over shown repeats of Cash in the Attic. Exactly the same bloody format!!!!! I do add though, that Peter Fincham has severely reduced the amount of OFAH on BBC1 and has listened to the public by also threatening to ditch the dancer idents.
It is sickening to think that BBC2 can show repeats of Ready Steady Cook, Sahara, Flog It!, but NOT show such classics as A Wonderful Life, White Christmas and the musical version of Scrooge. I think that if they are unable to provide adequate programming, they should revert back to lunchtime launch and only broadcast until 1.00am. BBC2.....you certainly aint what you used "2" be!!!!!
ST
Thanks Wicko. I find it so annoying to be honest as I remember BBC2 used to be the number one channel for the old films at Christmas and the controllers of this channel over the years, particularly in the 1990's treated viewers to at least 5 great films per day over the Christmas fortnight. Last Christmas there was a glimour of hope in the schedule and I seriously thought controller Roly Keating was trying hard to improve BBC2's film output, but this Christmas has completely knocked me for six literally. Just 2 or 3 films per day makes this the worst Christmas schedule on BBC2 since the channel's launch back in 1964 which makes a rather alarming statistic in itself.
BBC2 is constantly filling the gap with tripe like simultainious News 24 coverage (particularly on Saturday mornings!) and repeats of Flog It!. Surely Roly Keating can see this type of programming just isn't acceptable especially at Christmas.
For instance this Christmas on BBC2, rather than watching 'Singin' in the Rain' or 'It's a Wonderful Life', we have tripe like Ready Steady Cook or Sherlock Holmes (which is shown all year round). I thought the ex controller Jane Root was bad, Roly Keating is taking the p.... for sure.
BBC2 is constantly filling the gap with tripe like simultainious News 24 coverage (particularly on Saturday mornings!) and repeats of Flog It!. Surely Roly Keating can see this type of programming just isn't acceptable especially at Christmas.
For instance this Christmas on BBC2, rather than watching 'Singin' in the Rain' or 'It's a Wonderful Life', we have tripe like Ready Steady Cook or Sherlock Holmes (which is shown all year round). I thought the ex controller Jane Root was bad, Roly Keating is taking the p.... for sure.
WI
I thought BBC1 was excellent last year during the day. While BBC2 showed repeats of Who Do You Think You Are, Pole to Pole and such like, BBC1 showed an array of daytime movies like cool Runnings, Paulie, The Prince of Egypt, Mrs Caldicotts Cabbage War, Father of the Bride among a few. This year in the week leading up to Christmas we have Murder She Wrote, Cash in the Attic, CBBC and Neighbours. How two years vary so drastically is startling! 2004.....a reasonably good Christmas TV year. 2005.........crap!!!!!
WI
True but last year also people were working until Thursday December 23rd. Also, people within the retail sector (a vast amount of people) will be working until 6pm Christmas Eve and then go back to work on Boxing Day. Spare a thought for shop workers at Christmas. They get a raw deal at Christmas through no fault but the greed of their employers.
Dunedin posted:
To be fair, given the way Christmas fall this year, most people will be working until December 23rd.
So altering daytime TV for the masses before this date seems a little pointless.
So altering daytime TV for the masses before this date seems a little pointless.
True but last year also people were working until Thursday December 23rd. Also, people within the retail sector (a vast amount of people) will be working until 6pm Christmas Eve and then go back to work on Boxing Day. Spare a thought for shop workers at Christmas. They get a raw deal at Christmas through no fault but the greed of their employers.
PT
So no Keeping Up Appearances this year?
Wicko posted:
I thought BBC1 was excellent last year during the day. While BBC2 showed repeats of Who Do You Think You Are, Pole to Pole and such like, BBC1 showed an array of daytime movies like cool Runnings, Paulie, The Prince of Egypt, Mrs Caldicotts Cabbage War, Father of the Bride among a few. This year in the week leading up to Christmas we have Murder She Wrote, Cash in the Attic, CBBC and Neighbours. How two years vary so drastically is startling! 2004.....a reasonably good Christmas TV year. 2005.........crap!!!!!
So no Keeping Up Appearances this year?
WI
Doesn't look like Keeping Up Appearances is on. Infact the BBC1 Xmas daytime programmes consist of drivel this year. roll on Christmas 2006, might get some decent programmes then. Look at how Christmas TV compares:
1999: Pretty good....the ident was fantastic, the programmes varied from hilarious Vicar of Dibley, David Copperfield, the Royle Family, Jumanji, Mission Impossible, stage show version of The Snowman. All in all, not bad quite a vintage year.
2000: Very good. Ident....again very good with Santa in a balloon. Programmes ranged from Walking With Dinosaurs special, Titanic, Victoria Wood, The Royle Family, A creepy two part ghost story starting on Boxing Day. Not bad.
2001: Classic year. Wonderful ident. (Lengthened showing of it). The Lost World, brand new OFAH, Jonathan Creek, Station Jim, Toy Story, Antz, again very good.
2002: Well what a change! The only highlights on Christmas Day were Chicken Run and French and Saunders. A new OFAH did feature but it wasn't a classic! The ident was the snowflake kids. Disappointing year all round with Ground Force on for an hour in the evening and Bargain Hunt on Christmas afternoon.
2003: Dire! The ident was....2002's. Parkinson had a tacky Christmas night show. Stuart Little was the big film! Boxing Day was far greater with it's schedule including The Office and French and Saunders. Highlights were The Young Visiters and Carries War.
2004: Not bad. New ident with kids in bouncing up and down....they could have done so much more with it! Harry Potter, new Vicar of Dibley and that was about it for Christmas Day. Sherlock Holmes on Boxing Day and Auf Wiedersehen Pet featured too.
2005: We'll have to wait and see, but it's not looking like a vintage year!
1999: Pretty good....the ident was fantastic, the programmes varied from hilarious Vicar of Dibley, David Copperfield, the Royle Family, Jumanji, Mission Impossible, stage show version of The Snowman. All in all, not bad quite a vintage year.
2000: Very good. Ident....again very good with Santa in a balloon. Programmes ranged from Walking With Dinosaurs special, Titanic, Victoria Wood, The Royle Family, A creepy two part ghost story starting on Boxing Day. Not bad.
2001: Classic year. Wonderful ident. (Lengthened showing of it). The Lost World, brand new OFAH, Jonathan Creek, Station Jim, Toy Story, Antz, again very good.
2002: Well what a change! The only highlights on Christmas Day were Chicken Run and French and Saunders. A new OFAH did feature but it wasn't a classic! The ident was the snowflake kids. Disappointing year all round with Ground Force on for an hour in the evening and Bargain Hunt on Christmas afternoon.
2003: Dire! The ident was....2002's. Parkinson had a tacky Christmas night show. Stuart Little was the big film! Boxing Day was far greater with it's schedule including The Office and French and Saunders. Highlights were The Young Visiters and Carries War.
2004: Not bad. New ident with kids in bouncing up and down....they could have done so much more with it! Harry Potter, new Vicar of Dibley and that was about it for Christmas Day. Sherlock Holmes on Boxing Day and Auf Wiedersehen Pet featured too.
2005: We'll have to wait and see, but it's not looking like a vintage year!