PT
I blame QVC and their 'Christmas in July' campaign for the existence of this annoying thread. 
PC
BBC ONE's Xmas 2001 idents were the last great Xmas ident to hit our screens, and one of the best at that; very cosy visuals, top notch soundtrack.
I have to admit, I too tend to have a great dislike of this extremely hot weather and prefer the winter by a mile. It's also far easier to keep warm in winter than it is to keep cool in summer.
Re: the business of this year's Xmas pres helping, We can guess BBC ONE are going to have a different theme than the usual kids' movement because of the coming rebrand by the frankly dreaded Red Bee.
Unless someone knows info I do not, we can't say when BBC TWO's rebrand is going to happen, though we know it simply will. A rebrand ahead of Xmas is realistic IMO, such as November again like in 2001. If it overshoots, at the latest, would be February.
I have to admit, I too tend to have a great dislike of this extremely hot weather and prefer the winter by a mile. It's also far easier to keep warm in winter than it is to keep cool in summer.
Re: the business of this year's Xmas pres helping, We can guess BBC ONE are going to have a different theme than the usual kids' movement because of the coming rebrand by the frankly dreaded Red Bee.
Unless someone knows info I do not, we can't say when BBC TWO's rebrand is going to happen, though we know it simply will. A rebrand ahead of Xmas is realistic IMO, such as November again like in 2001. If it overshoots, at the latest, would be February.
RM
So why is there 4 pages worth of posts then!
Never said there wasnt. But personally its too early for me to think about Christmas. And why are people moaning about this hot weather - not just on here but generally.
Jez, it may not have occurred to you that a huge number of people feel very ill in the extreme heat. I like pleasant sunny days that are completed by a fresh summer breeze. But we don't get days like that anymore. When you get up and shower before putting fresh clothes on for work and asx soon as you step outside the clothes stick to you like glue. Then you feel itchy. You sweat, you spend the wholke day showering yourself with anti-perspirant in case you smell, you get a headache, your legs ache, you get sore in the groin area and walk like you've pooped yourself, your headache gets worse, your clothes are very hot, you are very hot, the heat is building still and you can't sleep because the night is so hot. Your headache comes backe because you're tired. You have seven showers in one day and still it's hot!!!
That's why people are moaning about the EXTREME heat. Not pleasant sunny days.
Well of course I realise that people get ill, have headaches and feel sick in this weather. Three years ago in really hot weather like this I passed out and ended up on a drip in hospital because I was dehydrated. But that was completely my own fault not the weather.
I guess some of us can cope with the heat better than others, as long as I drink plenty of cold drinks, I really like this hot weather.
I think it's the humidity rather than the heat that's the problem.
If you go to places such as the Mojave Desert in the USA, it's around 40C-45C around this time of year, but you don't notice it because it's dry heat (like oven heat)-- you don't get clammy.
SInce we're a small island, it gets very humid-- so we feel the heat!! I don't understand why the British complain the country's weather so much
... we don't get 100% humidity (like Hong Kong), massive tornadoes, devasting hurricanes, monsoons,
proper
droughts, hailstones the size of golfballs or
proper
blizzards during the winter! We are exceptionally lucky with our temperate climate... thank the Gulf Stream!
I much prefer autumn (very under-rated!!)-- especially October. We still get decent sunny days, but it is fresh and without the humidity. Also in autumn, there are no wasps, thunderbugs, flies, nettles or caravan traffic-jams!!
In October we still get plenty of daylight hours ... countryside is a lot prettier too, can't beat the colours of autumn.
Only disadvantages of autumn; over-commercialisation of Halowe'en, Bonfire Night and Christmas.... what this thread was about in the first place
Jez posted:
Wicko posted:
Jez posted:
Andrew posted:
Jez posted:
Its far too early to even think of Christmas, especially during this lovely hot weather!
So why is there 4 pages worth of posts then!
Never said there wasnt. But personally its too early for me to think about Christmas. And why are people moaning about this hot weather - not just on here but generally.
Jez, it may not have occurred to you that a huge number of people feel very ill in the extreme heat. I like pleasant sunny days that are completed by a fresh summer breeze. But we don't get days like that anymore. When you get up and shower before putting fresh clothes on for work and asx soon as you step outside the clothes stick to you like glue. Then you feel itchy. You sweat, you spend the wholke day showering yourself with anti-perspirant in case you smell, you get a headache, your legs ache, you get sore in the groin area and walk like you've pooped yourself, your headache gets worse, your clothes are very hot, you are very hot, the heat is building still and you can't sleep because the night is so hot. Your headache comes backe because you're tired. You have seven showers in one day and still it's hot!!!
That's why people are moaning about the EXTREME heat. Not pleasant sunny days.
Well of course I realise that people get ill, have headaches and feel sick in this weather. Three years ago in really hot weather like this I passed out and ended up on a drip in hospital because I was dehydrated. But that was completely my own fault not the weather.
I guess some of us can cope with the heat better than others, as long as I drink plenty of cold drinks, I really like this hot weather.
I think it's the humidity rather than the heat that's the problem.
If you go to places such as the Mojave Desert in the USA, it's around 40C-45C around this time of year, but you don't notice it because it's dry heat (like oven heat)-- you don't get clammy.
SInce we're a small island, it gets very humid-- so we feel the heat!! I don't understand why the British complain the country's weather so much
... we don't get 100% humidity (like Hong Kong), massive tornadoes, devasting hurricanes, monsoons,
proper
droughts, hailstones the size of golfballs or
proper
blizzards during the winter! We are exceptionally lucky with our temperate climate... thank the Gulf Stream!
I much prefer autumn (very under-rated!!)-- especially October. We still get decent sunny days, but it is fresh and without the humidity. Also in autumn, there are no wasps, thunderbugs, flies, nettles or caravan traffic-jams!!
In October we still get plenty of daylight hours ... countryside is a lot prettier too, can't beat the colours of autumn.
Only disadvantages of autumn; over-commercialisation of Halowe'en, Bonfire Night and Christmas.... what this thread was about in the first place
JA
Don't you mean 110-120 (or thereabouts)? The Americans are a backward nation that still use Farenheight.
james2001
Founding member
Roger Mellie posted:
If you go to places such as the Mojave Desert in the USA, it's around 40C-45C around this time of year, but you don't notice it because it's dry heat (like oven heat)-- you don't get clammy.
Don't you mean 110-120 (or thereabouts)? The Americans are a backward nation that still use Farenheight.
RM
Don't you mean 110-120 (or thereabouts)? The Americans are a backward nation that still use Farenheight.
Apologies!! I think even NASA use deg C now... just weather forecasters in US who use deg F. And some Major Mistunderstanding types in the UK who seem to think that F is imperial, depsite the fact a German invented it!! Celsius is supposed far more accurate than Farenheit 
:
Celsius is easier to get your head round...
>-10= Extremely cold
-5 = Very cold
0 = Freezing (literally!)
5= Cold
10 = Cool
15= Average
20= Mild
25= Warm
30= Hot
35= Very Hot
40+= Extremely Hot
I think it's easier to relate to that anyway
james2001 posted:
Roger Mellie posted:
If you go to places such as the Mojave Desert in the USA, it's around 40C-45C around this time of year, but you don't notice it because it's dry heat (like oven heat)-- you don't get clammy.
Don't you mean 110-120 (or thereabouts)? The Americans are a backward nation that still use Farenheight.
Apologies!!
I think even NASA use deg C now... just weather forecasters in US who use deg F. And some Major Mistunderstanding types in the UK who seem to think that F is imperial, depsite the fact a German invented it!! Celsius is supposed far more accurate than Farenheit :
Celsius is easier to get your head round...
>-10= Extremely cold
-5 = Very cold
0 = Freezing (literally!)
5= Cold
10 = Cool
15= Average
20= Mild
25= Warm
30= Hot
35= Very Hot
40+= Extremely Hot
I think it's easier to relate to that anyway
JA
james2001
Founding member
Still, the newspapers seem to have over the last few days been printing headlines about how hot it is, and giving the temperature in Farenheight. Which is rediculous, as most people I know (myself included) don't even understand Farenheight. When the papers were reporting that temperatures could pass 100, I had to go on the internet to find out what the hell 100 degrees is (it's 37.7°C BTW).
Presumably, these newspapers are aimed at the old fogeys who never moved away from imperial and still convert money to £-s-d as this new fangled decimalisation is too confusing.
Presumably, these newspapers are aimed at the old fogeys who never moved away from imperial and still convert money to £-s-d as this new fangled decimalisation is too confusing.
:-(
A former member
The Celcius scale was made epecially for water - freezes at 0 and boils at 100. The Faranheight scale is a joke. It's not been taught in schools for well over half a century and weather forecasters only use it for the over 70s.
RD
I personally undersand fahrenheit.
If it is 70-80 degrees, it is hot. 100 degrees is significant because it is just over body-temperature 98.4, and one who is said to have a temperature (when ill) is at about 100 degrees. It starts gets worrying if it starts to pass 100.
32 degrees is freezing.
When I think weather, I think in celcius in the winter, and Fahrenheit in the summer. In the more Spring, building up to summer, I calculate in Fahrenheit, to see how close to the 70s and 80s we are.
What - it works for me!
If it is 70-80 degrees, it is hot. 100 degrees is significant because it is just over body-temperature 98.4, and one who is said to have a temperature (when ill) is at about 100 degrees. It starts gets worrying if it starts to pass 100.
32 degrees is freezing.
When I think weather, I think in celcius in the winter, and Fahrenheit in the summer. In the more Spring, building up to summer, I calculate in Fahrenheit, to see how close to the 70s and 80s we are.
What - it works for me!
RM
Aeeeey??
BTW for all those "old fogeys" out there, Farenheit isn't imperial!! It wasn't invented by a German, and Germans have used metric since it was invented (I think)!
Celsius is based on the Kelvin scale, where 0K is 'absolute zero'-- the lowest temperature that can be achieved. Kelvin is actually the official unit of temperature, but it is more convenient to use C for everyday temperatures on weather forecasts etc. Easier to say 20C than 293K!!!
NB To convert Kelvin into Celsius add 273. So 0C is 273K. The freezing point of water varies according to atmospheric pressure/altitude by the way.
Rob Del Monte posted:
I personally undersand fahrenheit.
If it is 70-80 degrees, it is hot. 100 degrees is significant because it is just over body-temperature 98.4, and one who is said to have a temperature (when ill) is at about 100 degrees. It starts gets worrying if it starts to pass 100.
32 degrees is freezing.
When I think weather, I think in celcius in the winter, and Fahrenheit in the summer. In the more Spring, building up to summer, I calculate in Fahrenheit, to see how close to the 70s and 80s we are.
What - it works for me!
If it is 70-80 degrees, it is hot. 100 degrees is significant because it is just over body-temperature 98.4, and one who is said to have a temperature (when ill) is at about 100 degrees. It starts gets worrying if it starts to pass 100.
32 degrees is freezing.
When I think weather, I think in celcius in the winter, and Fahrenheit in the summer. In the more Spring, building up to summer, I calculate in Fahrenheit, to see how close to the 70s and 80s we are.
What - it works for me!
Aeeeey??
BTW for all those "old fogeys" out there, Farenheit isn't imperial!! It wasn't invented by a German, and Germans have used metric since it was invented (I think)!
Celsius is based on the Kelvin scale, where 0K is 'absolute zero'-- the lowest temperature that can be achieved. Kelvin is actually the official unit of temperature, but it is more convenient to use C for everyday temperatures on weather forecasts etc. Easier to say 20C than 293K!!!
NB To convert Kelvin into Celsius add 273. So 0C is 273K. The freezing point of water varies according to atmospheric pressure/altitude by the way.