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Children in Need 2016

Friday 18 November (November 2016)

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:-(
A former member
whats worse is there stayed around 17million for 89 and 90 aswell. of course there not problem with on the night since from 2001 the overall total was just going upwards ( I know about 04 05 which were only million less)
IS
Inspector Sands
Highest total ever but lowest rating ever?

This strikes me that the telethon evening is increasingly irrelevant, when the total is artificially drip fed throughout the evening by massive corporate amounts, I wonder how much is actually made on the night by people phoning in.


Free advertising for corporate organisations. A years campaign on ITV that costs them millions or a couple of million to the BBC once a year? I know what I'd choose.

Remember though that they're not corporate donations, they're the proceeds from CiN related sales and donations from the public. Boots didn't donate £2 or whatever million, they sold Pudseys and had buckets in shops for example
IS
Inspector Sands
I've not properly watched it for years but though last night's was pretty good. It'll be a few years until it settles down to the type of time shift presenting that Comic Relief does well.

Ratings for the TV show aren't necessarily related to the total raised. It's just one Children in Need broadcast of many across the BBC
BR
Brekkie
Skipped through the highlights earlier and a bit strange Rochelle and Marvin got a longer slot than the others combined but they did a decent enough job. Was good to see Gaby involved in a VT but although it has been a decade since her last show it might have been wise to bring her back this year just to add that bit of history with the charity back to the show. I never thought I'd be saying this too but for similar reasons it was surprising Fearne Cotton was absent too. Always felt she had a stronger association with the telethon than Tess, and also worked better with Terry too.

I think they got the references to Terry spot on though - didn't dominate the show but they did take time a few times during the night to acknowledge him.
:-(
A former member
Its a good cause and people will always throw money at it, no matter what, its like Red Nose day and poppies. Here' s my money just take it.

With the actually programmes itself its just to slick for my likley its just so formulamatic, with pop songs and film about money, the pop star, and the whole build up is just flat. When people see a complaint about CiN there just think were all nay sayers who hate the overall concept of the programmes which is further from the truth. I think some simple ideas would give the programmes some new life.

* Scrap the One show and have the main Show at 7pm
* Have a special preview show at 5pm -6pm highlight stuff from around the regions, of course have a special pointless CIn at 4.15 Wink
* For the actually main programme we need to have TWO main host one for 7-10 slot and another for 10.40- 2am slot. Just trying think of someone who could be close to sir wogan not going to be easy.
* The Main programme will have seating area, so interviews, special surprise guest can appear.
* Why not have live outside broadcast from one other main regions every year, which could have a concert and live performance, so Brum one year, Newcastle the next, bristol the year after etc
* Back back proper specials which are not just 7mins long, lets have 20mins slot special.
JO
Josh
Its a good cause and people will always throw money at it, no matter what, its like Red Nose day and poppies. Here' s my money just take it.

With the actually programmes itself its just to slick for my likley its just so formulamatic, with pop songs and film about money, the pop star, and the whole build up is just flat. When people see a complaint about CiN there just think were all nay sayers who hate the overall concept of the programmes which is further from the truth. I think some simple ideas would give the programmes some new life.

* Scrap the One show and have the main Show at 7pm
* Have a special preview show at 5pm -6pm highlight stuff from around the regions, of course have a special pointless CIn at 4.15 Wink
* For the actually main programme we need to have TWO main host one for 7-10 slot and another for 10.40- 2am slot. Just trying think of someone who could be close to sir wogan not going to be easy.
* The Main programme will have seating area, so interviews, special surprise guest can appear.
* Why not have live outside broadcast from one other main regions every year, which could have a concert and live performance, so Brum one year, Newcastle the next, bristol the year after etc
* Back back proper specials which are not just 7mins long, lets have 20mins slot special.

A fantasy schedule? I don't like them, but this is reasonable.
BU
buster

Looking at the cash totals I'm surprised at how many years it didn't beat the previous year's- I've always remembered this as happening regularly, but the total on the night hovered up and down around £11-12 million for almost a decade until more money started coming in. 1992's programme must have been a bit awkward as they dropped from £17 million on the night in 1991 to £11 million a year later, not beating 1991's on the night total until 2005.


Almost certainly due to "Black Wednesday" just weeks before the 1992 show, where the pound crashed out of the ERM. The implications for charities were widespread as prices/mortgages shot up, hence less disposable income for charitable giving. So it's likely they were expecting it, although perhaps not to that extent.
FA
fanoftv
Having caught up on the event I felt that it went very well.
Greg James was wonderful butt I felt that he could have worked better with Fearne Cotton rather than Tess Daly.

'The odd couple' (as they referred to themselves) of Graham and Adi worked well though Graham felt like he was holding back, plus they weren't really given enough time. I think I'd prefer to see a sofa reintroduced and have Graham host mini versions of his chat show through the night.

Rochelle & Marvin as always were very able presenters for the second bulk of the show though adding Russell Kane brought things to life. The games that he hosted added something different to the standard VT sketch and music performance. More of this would be nice. I'm not saying turn it into a lite version of Celebrity Juice but maybe introduce live versions of a couple of panel shows/game shows to the stage in future years.
HC
Hatton Cross
Its a good cause and people will always throw money at it, no matter what, its like Red Nose day and poppies. Here' s my money just take it.

That is the idea of charity..

With the actually programmes itself its just to slick for my likley its just so formulamatic, with pop songs and film about money, the pop star, and the whole build up is just flat. When people see a complaint about CiN there just think were all nay sayers who hate the overall concept of the programmes which is further from the truth. I think some simple ideas would give the programmes some new life.


Sense, you want a return to the late 80's where the whole production was riddled with minor technical incidents, which Terry reveled in. Apart from Norton, no-one around could wing it for 15 seconds, before putting out some sort of half-hearted apology that no-one watching took seriously because they accepted it, however, to look at your other ideas/improvements...


* Scrap the One show and have the main Show at 7pm

So, you would deny The One Show team a self contained finale to the yearly rickshaw challenge, and total raised amount? Harsh.

* Have a special preview show at 5pm -6pm highlight stuff from around the regions, of course have a special pointless CIn at 4.15 Wink

Most of the audience available at 7 is busy doing other things at this time - rather like the regional presenters and crew, who are I'd guess at this time are either:-
a) preparing/rehearsing/pre-recording for the 6.30 regional news show or ..
b) because it's CIN night, preparing/rehearsing/pre-recording for the live link into the 6.30 regional news show, and regional opts in the main show.

* For the actually main programme we need to have TWO main host one for 7-10 slot and another for 10.40- 2am slot. Just trying think of someone who could be close to sir wogan not going to be easy.

You said it. We lost in January one of the greatest exponents of live tv with or without an autocue. Two names spring to mind. Both need ITV's co-operation. Phillp Schofield or Bradley Walsh.
Graham Norton is really the only 'BBC' name capable of really carrying 7 hours off at the moment - No matter how many times they try and mold Nick Grimshaw into that role.

* The Main programme will have seating area, so interviews, special surprise guest can appear.

Why? Does it matter if the surprise guest is sitting down or standing up? Guests on this night (either surprise or pre-annouced) have the same function.
Walk on, present a dummy cheque, plug their latest film/tv show/book/single/album/concert tour, a bit of inane chat (usually drowned out by the screaming hordes in the studio) and walk off as the first 3 seconds of a heart pulling vt starts.

* Why not have live outside broadcast from one other main regions every year, which could have a concert and live performance, so Brum one year, Newcastle the next, bristol the year after etc

There's are actually a whole host of very good reasons why most of the show is done from one studio. Fragmenting it around the country would dilute it, and add extra technical requirements which you don't really need, plus, would also bang up the budget (unless you charge something like £50 with a 50/50 CiN donation/production costs per ticket)

I'll take your idea, and slightly amend it. Don't have a hour block during the night, but move the 'Children In Need Rocks' around the country. So one year Belfast, next Glasgow, next Nottingham ect.

Back back proper specials which are not just 7mins long, lets have 20mins slot special.

Or go back to the late 80's where it was a normal Friday night schedule, and have 3 min inserts, plus a stand alone show at 8.30 and then again 11-12am? No.
In today's world of high energy, fast paced, mutil feature shows with clear signposts to features at the top and bottom of every hour works well. You know what's coming up and if you don't like it - there's something you might like in 5 mins.
Putting in 20min specials is high risk, because if the audience doesn't like it - and they start surfing (both channel, and on-line) they you've lost them for the evening, and the possible donations. Plus, 20 min vt specials would only really be done for a reason, to give the studio stage management team extra minutes to strike the set for the next big studio set piece.
You don't see many of those these days - it doesn't take 20 mins to put some floor level vari-lights at the back of the main perfomance area, and reload the glitter cannons.

Stop trying to wish the show would regress back to the 1990's when there were technically glitches all over the place, crash zooms, harrased floor managers, cut backs to studio far to early, and Terry Wogan as main link man..
..CiN has moved on in terms of style and production.
BR
Brekkie
For what it's worth I do think the show has improved over the last 5 years ago - certainly seems to have moved on from the era when it was a 7 hour edition of Top of the Pops.

The main issues are that content is spread too thinly and on the whole the same year in year out. I do agree actually it should begin at 7pm - The One Show keeping it's slot makes it seem more important than Children in Need, and it isn't. The rickshaw thing didn't end till about 8.30 last night anyway, so can just be incorporated into the show.
MA
mark Founding member
There didn't seem to be a live orchestra in the studio this year - how long has that been the case for?

I also thought the updates of the fundraising total were a bit lacklustre compared with how they used to be. None of the fanfare of yesteryear in the bits that I saw - just the total flashing up on a small screen behind the presenters.
CY
cylon6
For what it's worth I do think the show has improved over the last 5 years ago - certainly seems to have moved on from the era when it was a 7 hour edition of Top of the Pops.

The main issues are that content is spread too thinly and on the whole the same year in year out. I do agree actually it should begin at 7pm - The One Show keeping it's slot makes it seem more important than Children in Need, and it isn't. The rickshaw thing didn't end till about 8.30 last night anyway, so can just be incorporated into the show.

Children In Need has improved in terms of presentation but basing it on a night of entertainment and content it isn't great to me. I see no reason to have The One Show lead into Children In Need. Start it at 7pm.

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