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Channel Television during the 1979 ITV Strike

How did it continue broadcasting? (June 2019)

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robertclark125
Could Channel have tried to broadcast anything sports wise from France, using their own commentators, during the ITV strike? I'm meaning things like the GP de Nations time trial cycling race, possibly the odd French rugby union match?
CO
commseng
How would they have had access to any of those feeds?
Again, think about as it was in 1979, not in 2019.
No satellite feeds, every circuit either via cable or microwave link.
Channel would have neither available to them.
You cannot apply the technology post 1980 to a tiny outpost with limited finances in 1979.
JK
JKDerry
How would they have had access to any of those feeds?
Again, think about as it was in 1979, not in 2019.
No satellite feeds, every circuit either via cable or microwave link.
Channel would have neither available to them.
You cannot apply the technology post 1980 to a tiny outpost with limited finances in 1979.

The only option for Channel Television to broadcast sport from France would have been if their Jersey centre could have picked up TF1, France 2 etc, the main French channels from the French mainland and rebroadcast that from Fremont Point. That would be a hell of an issue, trying to pick up the French signal of any quality, as French transmitters were powered so that they would not interfere with Fremont Point too much.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Was Channel's news bulletin in French produced by themselves or supplied by a French station?
CO
commseng
Riaz posted:
Sadly the technology (as in a video link to the UK) did not exist at the time, so the only option would have been for CTV to establish a playout centre in the UK. Therefore any concepts of CTV networking the UK are really a hypothetical possibility more so than an idea that ran through the minds of most managers at CTV, unless one knows otherwise. I don't think that the number of staff at CTV had much bearing on the issue though if the IBA handles matters once the feed reaches the UK.

The ITV strike is notable as the first (significant) instance where the unions and the working classes crossed paths with each other. ITV was preferred by the C2, D, and E socioeconomic groups whereas the BBC was preferred by the A, B, and C1 socioeconomic groups. It's unclear how well the unions realised this.

Was there any detailed contingency plan ever put in place by the IBA to deal with service provision during instances of large scale industrial action at programme contractors?

The information that you have provided about the network feed passing through the MCR of the local ITV studio on its way to the transmitter is probably the best and most compelling answer as to why CTV (if it actually had a video link to the UK) would be unlikely to network their programmes and provide a minimal service. If the MCR rooms are out of action then the feed cannot progress from the GPO network to the transmitters unless the IBA installs a bypass network.

This does raise ethical questions whether an ITV programme contractor should or should not have been allowed to block ANY networked programmes from its transmitters as a result of strike action or otherwise...

As an engineer rather than someone who has the management or political control, there are a few things that come to mind here.

Firstly, the assumption that because ITV was watched by the working classes, the unions would not have wanted to affect it.
I grew up with the power going off in 1973, and that affected us, not just those with money to burn, although it may have kept them warmer. Strike action affected everybody.

Secondly, why would the IBA have financed a back up system to allow anything to keep programmes on the transmitter network? It would have been so unlikley to be used, and have cost a fortune to implement. With hindsight you can say that it could have been used for 11 weeks in 1979, but who knew that would have been the case then?

Thirdly, the question as to should the ITV contractor be able to block anything going to air that wasn't from their station, well, that is quite a question it is not a technical one, but a political one that has to consider where the consent to have the right to air material came from.
The IBA were the broadcaster for ITV, and could have broadcast anything they chose. They chose not to.
Why?
Consider what that would have done to the whole Independent Broadcasting system.
The contractors would have been up in arms, not just the unions, but the management.
There would have been support for this across a wider part of the media and communications industry not just broadcasting who would have been concerned about editorial control and possible censorship.
It really is so difficult to explain now why this would have been such an impossible thing for the IBA to do.
The UK was in a different mind set.
I don't remember thinking - I wish Channel TV would supply a load of repeat programmes to keep something on air.
I just thought ATV is still off.
It was what it was.
Does that seem odd?
CO
commseng
How would they have had access to any of those feeds?
Again, think about as it was in 1979, not in 2019.
No satellite feeds, every circuit either via cable or microwave link.
Channel would have neither available to them.
You cannot apply the technology post 1980 to a tiny outpost with limited finances in 1979.

The only option for Channel Television to broadcast sport from France would have been if their Jersey centre could have picked up TF1, France 2 etc, the main French channels from the French mainland and rebroadcast that from Fremont Point. That would be a hell of an issue, trying to pick up the French signal of any quality, as French transmitters were powered so that they would not interfere with Fremont Point too much.

I suspect (with no insider knowlege) that it wasn't worth their while doing an off air feed for a limited interest programme that would require them to opt out of the ITV network which had more viewers likely to watch that.
During the strike trying to negociate rights to rebroadcast events with the French TV channels, who themselves would be heavily unionised. would not be easy.
CO
commseng
Was Channel's news bulletin in French produced by themselves or supplied by a French station?

I am fairly sure it was produced by Channel themselves.
Just because it is in another language it doesn't need to be sourced in another way.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Thanks, that was my assumption too, I just wondered if outsourcing it might have been easier and cheaper than doing their own, in which case there might have been an established means of getting a feed for the above far fetched scenario.
MA
Markymark
How would they have had access to any of those feeds?
Again, think about as it was in 1979, not in 2019.
No satellite feeds, every circuit either via cable or microwave link.
Channel would have neither available to them.
You cannot apply the technology post 1980 to a tiny outpost with limited finances in 1979.

The only option for Channel Television to broadcast sport from France would have been if their Jersey centre could have picked up TF1, France 2 etc, the main French channels from the French mainland and rebroadcast that from Fremont Point. That would be a hell of an issue, trying to pick up the French signal of any quality, as French transmitters were powered so that they would not interfere with Fremont Point too much.


Well, apart from extreme fantasy, there is the minor point that Channel would have required a standards converter, way out of financial reach for them in 1979.

Come on now, Channel was (and still is) very broadly equipped to the same level as a BBC English region.
It's like suggesting BBC Southampton could have been the disaster recovery site for BBC 1 ! There's no chance with 1970s technology and links, (and there's not much more chance today !)
Steve in Pudsey and Inspector Sands gave kudos
TJ
TedJrr
Was Channel's news bulletin in French produced by themselves or supplied by a French station?


Themselves.

It was Channel Islands news, in Norman (not metropolitan French).
London Lite and Steve in Pudsey gave kudos
TJ
TedJrr
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Well, apart from extreme fantasy, there is the minor point that Channel would have required a standards converter, way out of financial reach for them in 1979...........


I wonder how the commentary cct would have worked?

Presumably, French practice of the time would have been to route via Paris and onward to Farraday exchange in London and then to Jersey via Bournemouth GSC and undersea cable. Sounds an expensive provision requiring planning and a lot of co-operation.

Dial-up would be an alternative, albeit with a long expensive international call, presumably with a back-up.

France to Jersey direct may have been a possibility, "Connecting Jersey: A History of electronic communications in the Channel Islands" - by Graeme Marett should describe the practicality. (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Connecting-Jersey-History-Electronic-Communications/dp/1909465631/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=connecting+jersey+a+history+of+electronic+communications+in+the+channel+islands&qid=1562049548&s=gateway&sr=8-1)

Perhaps one way would have been to borrow as link vehicle from somewhere in ITV and set it-up in a campsite at Gouville-sur-Mer connected to a domestic French PSTN line. This would have given a cheaper and possibly more reliable dial-up to the stadium, either requiring delicate permissioning from the French authorities, or just not getting caught.

Or, the commentator (an ITV volunteer?) could do the commentary off-screen.

Sounds a lot of effort, cost, goodwill against the risk that it could be a boring match. Sort of fun though.

Perhaps a better strategy would have been to borrowed a fully crewed ITV OB unit in exchange for a trip to Jersey, and then to persuade a couple of French rugby teams to play in St Helier?
Last edited by TedJrr on 2 July 2019 8:02am
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Steve in Pudsey
Did Fremont have any OB receiving kit at the time for this hypothetical borrowed links truck to work into?

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