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Channel Breakdowns: Faults during Programmes etc.

(November 2006)

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Orry Verducci
Andrew Tyne Tees posted:
ITV1 Tech fault.
ITV Weather fine, goes to GMTV ad...
(Clock - GMTV Productions etc)
Black screen - old ITV breakbumper
then gmtv ad... cut short then coming up tonight.

As well as that here in the Anglia region it's got stuck on ITV News' 14:9 aspect ratio, so now everything seems a lot thinner then it should be with the top and the bottom of the picture missing (which is great for the weather when I can't see what day they're talking about). ITV London is fine however.
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Ant
Same in STV - we even got a glimpse of an ITV1 logo for a few seconds.

You could see from the VT Clock that they manually fast forwarded it during the countdown but for some reason they put the ITV1 logo on just as the countdown was ending. Confused
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tvarksouthwest
Antz posted:
tvarksouthwest posted:
And I have to say, there's no reason why the wording on CBBC's caption at least shouldn't be the same as that of BBC4's.

Probably just to appeal more to younger viewers. 'Whoops' sounds more friendly than a simple message.

Or it could be construed as condescending.
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Andrew Founding member
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ohwhatanight Founding member
So was that Carl or Dave's fault? Smile

Also, everytime there has been an itv1 'rebrand/refresh' there has been use of the breakdown slide on the very first day!

I remember the introduction of the last set that passed away yesterday and on the very first day a breakdown caption was used on itv1wales. They correctly used the new version that was introduced on that very first day - whereas today's version was the lasat version but has it been superceeded? The promotions and everything else have stayed the same so maybe that breakdown caption is still the current one?
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marksi
tvarksouthwest posted:
Antz posted:
tvarksouthwest posted:
And I have to say, there's no reason why the wording on CBBC's caption at least shouldn't be the same as that of BBC4's.

Probably just to appeal more to younger viewers. 'Whoops' sounds more friendly than a simple message.

Or it could be construed as condescending.


Indeed. It should be a stern looking mature gentleman in a dinner suit addressing the viewer with authority and - perhaps - just a little sense of menace to prevent you switching channels.
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Orry Verducci
I feel sorry for all the Freeview and Cable viewers of Anglia planning on watching I'm A Celeb, as it's still stuck in 14:9 from ITV News (which is a bit of a joke). Fortunately Sky viewers can watch ITV London, which is exactly what I'm doing.
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tvarksouthwest
marksi posted:
Indeed. It should be a stern looking mature gentleman in a dinner suit addressing the viewer with authority and - perhaps - just a little sense of menace to prevent you switching channels.

Wondered how long it would be before you got on my tail...

We both know that would be an extreme approach. But there's a fine line between wanting to seem more welcoming to a younger audience, and patronising them.

I could understand "We are sorry for the break in this programme" etc. when I was of CBBC age, and I'm sure many people that age can. "We have a problem, we're trying to solve it quickly" just seems rather a vague statement.

Perhaps it's just me but it seems like some children's programmes are talking down to their audience these days. The tone of Newsround, and its Ceefax pages, tries too hard to be "hip" with much use of phrases like "loads of you..." and the K-word in lieu of "children". Sometimes a bit of straight talking is all that's needed.
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marksi
tvarksouthwest posted:
marksi posted:
Indeed. It should be a stern looking mature gentleman in a dinner suit addressing the viewer with authority and - perhaps - just a little sense of menace to prevent you switching channels.

Wondered how long it would be before you got on my tail...

We both know that would be an extreme approach. But there's a fine line between wanting to seem more welcoming to a younger audience, and patronising them.

I could understand "We are sorry for the break in this programme" etc. when I was of CBBC age, and I'm sure many people that age can. "We have a problem, we're trying to solve it quickly" just seems rather a vague statement.

Perhaps it's just me but it seems like some children's programmes are talking down to their audience these days. The tone of Newsround, and its Ceefax pages, tries too hard to be "hip" with much use of phrases like "loads of you..." and the K-word in lieu of "children". Sometimes a bit of straight talking is all that's needed.


The CBBC breakdown slide gives just as much information as the BBC Four one, and I should remind you that CBBC is not aimed at people in their 30s.
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Aphrodite007
marksi posted:
tvarksouthwest posted:
marksi posted:
Indeed. It should be a stern looking mature gentleman in a dinner suit addressing the viewer with authority and - perhaps - just a little sense of menace to prevent you switching channels.

Wondered how long it would be before you got on my tail...

We both know that would be an extreme approach. But there's a fine line between wanting to seem more welcoming to a younger audience, and patronising them.

I could understand "We are sorry for the break in this programme" etc. when I was of CBBC age, and I'm sure many people that age can. "We have a problem, we're trying to solve it quickly" just seems rather a vague statement.

Perhaps it's just me but it seems like some children's programmes are talking down to their audience these days. The tone of Newsround, and its Ceefax pages, tries too hard to be "hip" with much use of phrases like "loads of you..." and the K-word in lieu of "children". Sometimes a bit of straight talking is all that's needed.


The CBBC breakdown slide gives just as much information as the BBC Four one, and I should remind you that CBBC is not aimed at people in their 30s.


Absolutely. I never used to understand the threads on here featuring middle aged people complaining/commenting on kids shows. They seem to forget they are not the target audience!
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tvarksouthwest
Well well, I happen to spot a couple of breakdown captions on children's channels and people assume I watch those channels all the time. My viewing habits are my own business. As are yours.
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Paul Clark
Wobbly picture and stuttery sound during a lesson in folk dancing...

http://www.duke1401.myby.co.uk/bbctwo-fault-caption-16-11-06-2.jpg

Arrow BBC TWO fault 16/11/06 - 1' 30" ; RM

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