Channel 5

I think this'll be in play for a while. I somehow am reminded of GMB with the transitions, anyone else?

If clean was the look they were going for I think they did it well but I just don't know if they should have just done a complete brand overhaul and I sadly can't see that now.

They still have not sorted out what happens to the DOG during a 4:3 programme. It's simply too far in from the edge of the screen and is very distracting. If UKTV can make their DOG's tight in the corner no matter if the content is 4:3 or 16:9, why do other networks find it so difficult to do.

I see they haven't moved the 16:9 Milkshake DOG either and it's where it used to be before the mini-refresh of Channel 5's graphics.

When I worked for Channel 5 TX (2012-2014 - can't remember exactly when this happened, but I think it was some time in 2013), they did try to sort this out once and for all. They brought in new DOGs - well, bugs as they're called at C5 - for both 4:3 and 16:9 programmes. As soon as I saw them being tested, I said that they were a vast improvement in terms of placing... but possibly slightly *too* eager in terms of pushing the bugs *right* to the corner of the screen, and I thought there would be complaints due to overscan issues.

They were put to air... and after a while, they decided to revert back to the previous version of the bugs. I never found out why, but I'm guessing that they did have problems with the overscan. Why they reverted back to the originals rather than just tweaking - *especially* with the 4:3 bug - I will never understand. (I haven't seen any 4:3 shows yet since this mini-refresh, but if it *is* still in the same place, that's utterly ludicrous. It drove me utterly loopy every time we broadcast 4:3 material.)

I would also point out that this is the problem when a TX suite is run as "playout" rather than "presentation". Personally, I think if someone in TX mentions a potential problem it should at least be listened to and considered rather than being lost in the ether, but what do I know? The channel made nearly every single decision, far away from the TX suite. Luckily, I now work somewhere where we *are* actually listened to, and have a bit more power to get things right.

Yes, I remember when they did change the Channel 5 'bugs' and they were much nicer. Only lasted a day or two, and then the Channel 5 one at least reverted to the old one. The bugs on 5 USA and 5* though remained tight into the corner and look a lot better on 4:3 material, but still too far out from the left. Certainly no-where near as bad as it is on Channel 5. I was watching Milkshake this morning to see if they moved the Milkshake bug too, but they haven't. Then a 4:3 cartoon came on and alas, the Milkshake bug was in a horrible position like the C5 main one is. It's nothing but total unprofessionalism that this has remained this way for years. Surely if the problem with the overscan was so big, they could have moved it a little more in instead of reverting to the old style where it was FAR too far in from the corner in the first place...!

I'd forgotten about this! Yes, that's right. Never understood why they kept it for 5*/5USA, but changed it back for the main channel, either...

If you know anyone who still works for Channel 5, have a word and see if they can modify the bugs one more time! A C5 bug the same size as the 5 in 5USA and 5* would work great, same for 5HD, it's massive and too bright. Maybe one day, someone will see common sense and fix them.

Not complaining, but where are all the adverts for Ch5? Its just all promos.

Also is there still a break bumper.

Break bumper has now turned up.

I'm confused by your last two messages! The break bumper has always been used by Channel 5.

But Ch5 it seems does not use it unless there actually adverts in the break.

Channel 5 haven't been running break bumpers which they tend to always do instead they only do it when an advert outwith the channel comes on. The problem is it seems to be overloaded with promos for upcoming shows and sometimes you can go hours without seeing an ad that isn't for channel 5 itself.

Between 6:30pm - 8pm on weekdays, Channel 5 rarely has ads. They're only allowed a certain number of ads across primetime (45 minutes I think, off the top of my head), so they save them for the more profitable slots.