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PFMC841,450 posts since 28 Feb 2013
UTV Newsline
I'm the same Mark, I have all the HD's in place of the SD channels, and have the channels sorted in a proper order, but I doubt Channel 5 would put the HD version on 5. Most people still use SD equipment, so that would surely affect their viewing figures as people would skip right past it on non-HD equipment when channel hopping and it doesn't show up on the first page of the TV guide, so it'll be forgotten about.
Markymark6,519 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
I'm the same Mark, I have all the HD's in place of the SD channels, and have the channels sorted in a proper order, but I doubt Channel 5 would put the HD version on 5. Most people still use SD equipment, so that would surely affect their viewing figures as people would skip right past it on non-HD equipment when channel hopping and it doesn't show up on the first page of the TV guide, so it'll be forgotten about.


Indeed, though I think the Sky platform puts the HD versions of channels on their 'SD' LCNs on HD boxes, (where there are no regional issues and/or the broadcaster accepts the idea). For instance I think Sky 1 HD appears on 106 on HD Sky boxes (as does in your part of the world UTV HD on 103 ?)
Mike516 (previously a516) 660 posts since 29 Jan 2010
Central (East) East Midlands Today
They could benefit from the new Freeview rules and get a fairly high channel number. Wouldn't surprise me if they chose to put C5HD on 5 and bump the SD equivalent down the EPG along with all of their other channels.

That's not allowed yet. The new rules only apply to HD-only channels and, as was clarified by a Digital UK spokesperson today, is only a reservation until such time that a SD/HD substitution is allowed. At that point, the channel's reserved slot becomes its actual slot - it's so that HD-only channels aren't disadvantaged when the HD section is removed and aren't tagged on to the end of the channel list. Remember, many Freeview HD receivers sold in the past 5-6 years would not cope if both the SD and HD version of the channel had the same channel number - one version would get bumped in to the 800s. If they swapped channel number allocations, Freeview SD users would see some of the main PSB channels in the 100s while the commercial SD channels remained in situ and nothing on channels 1-4 ...and that would go against EPG Prominence rules.
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Markymark6,519 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
Is 105 safeguarded for C5 though or do the rules allow everyone else in the HD section to shuffle down the EPG?


It's the fifth (of five) PSB, so I assume so ? Wasn't there a kurfuffle originally when the Beeb took 105 for BBC 3.

Do any other countries have these hang ups over EPG positions ? I certainly think any DVB receiver sold in the UK should have the facility for the user to re-order and delete whatever services they wish, freedom of choice and all that .
PFMC841,450 posts since 28 Feb 2013
UTV Newsline
That's why I love my TV (so much I bought another one for the bedroom!) as it allows you to rename and reorder the channels, and retuning just adds new channels found, so you can put them where you like and it doesn't erase your old custom list. So adding new channels is a breeze. I never have to see Ideal World or QVC again! Huzzah!
dvboy9,707 posts since 11 Jan 2003
Central (West) Midlands Today
Do any other countries have these hang ups over EPG positions ? I certainly think any DVB receiver sold in the UK should have the facility for the user to re-order and delete whatever services they wish, freedom of choice and all that .


A lot of countries don't have an organised EPG, they just store them in order found. I even experienced this with cable in Denmark.
Brekkie30,971 posts since 4 Jan 2003
HTV Wales Wales Today
This is how C5 come up with their programming:
Quote:
Psycho Pussies: When Cats Attacks was a favourite and “I do like Beaver Las Vegas, which is coming up in a few weeks”. He describes its inception: “It’s a title we made up for a laugh … we were having dinner and talking about crazy titles we could come up with. Then it turns out that beavers are being used to protect Las Vegas from environmental disaster. So we were able to make the programme!” he chuckles.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/mar/20/channel-5-ben-frow-beavers-las-vegas
I preferred the internet when it had a sense of humour.
PFMC841,450 posts since 28 Feb 2013
UTV Newsline
I thought it was a dartboard with random words in each segment?

They throw 3 darts and whatever words they hit are the title for a new series...

(In fairness though, every second segment was either 'cats' or 'benefits')

Actually, new series idea - "Can't Spay? We'll Take Your Moggy Away - On Benefits - LIVE"
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