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Whataday9,148 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
Ever wondered why traditionally most independent production companies are based in the soho/fitzrovia area of London? That's because Channel 4 started in Charlotte Street and so all the new companies supplying it gravitated to the area.


But is that the best model to use? You can only produce programmes if you're able to wine and dine an executive at The Groucho?
denton1,004 posts since 4 Jan 2003

I wonder what they mean by "creative hub" anyway... seeing as they mainly commission content. The only things they create themselves are their promos/trails/marketing/social media.

Ever wondered why traditionally most independent production companies are based in the soho/fitzrovia area of London? That's because Channel 4 started in Charlotte Street and so all the new companies supplying it gravitated to the area.


I suspect that's the idea behind these 'hubs', Channel 4 provide the hub, to attract the creative industry to those areas. It's not channel 4 creating things, they'll commission from their 4 bases

Also as the article says the plan for Horseferry Road is to rent out office space to production companies, presumably that will be the case in the other hubs


Yes of course Channel 4 coming into existence as a commissioning-broadcaster (rather than a producer) kick-started the independent production sector in London in 1982. Since then though production companies have appeared all over the UK supplying Channel 4, 5, BBC, Sky, etc... and they've all done pretty well in their own offices in their own towns and cities up to now.

Taking "creative hub" to mean that Channel 4 intends to open offices in specific towns with space that can be leased by independents... I just wonder if that will actually work as an idea.

Taking Northern Ireland as an example... if Channel 4 decided to open a "hub" in Belfast city centre... I'm not entirely convinced that Waddell Media, Flickerpix, Below the Radar, Striling, Sixteen South, etc would leave their individual premises in and around Belfast... just so that they could all sit in the same office block as 1 or 2 Channel 4 genre commissioners on the off-chance of getting some business.

May be they hope that it will encourage new production companies to set up. Great. But if that's the plan they're going to have to give some serious rent discounts and be prepared to have a lot of empty space while businesses establish.

I'm all for more television production outside of London... I'm just not convinced so far by what I've read.
Closedown67 posts since 23 Nov 2014
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
When the rumour was swirling about an HQ move to Birmingham, I rather suspected that the biggest winner would be the train company ferrying producers back and forth on first class tickets for meetings with C4 execs. And said execs, presumably, returning to their Home Counties houses at night;-)
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62305822,595 posts since 19 Aug 2005 Recently warned
STV Central Reporting Scotland
There already decent hub in Scotland, its STV office, which have a good number of indies in there.


When the rumour was swirling about an HQ move to Birmingham, I rather suspected that the biggest winner would be the train company ferrying producers back and forth on first class tickets for meetings with C4 execs. And said execs, presumably, returning to their Home Counties houses at night;-)


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Inspector Sands12,741 posts since 25 Aug 2004

Taking "creative hub" to mean that Channel 4 intends to open offices in specific towns with space that can be leased by independents... I just wonder if that will actually work as an idea.

Taking Northern Ireland as an example... if Channel 4 decided to open a "hub" in Belfast city centre... I'm not entirely convinced that Waddell Media, Flickerpix, Below the Radar, Striling, Sixteen South, etc would leave their individual premises in and around Belfast... just so that they could all sit in the same office block as 1 or 2 Channel 4 genre commissioners on the off-chance of getting some business.

Well no, of course companies like that won't move, but that's not the point. If Channel 4 did set up an office in Belfast then existing production companies in that city, and Northern Ireland in general will benefit, and more will open

If they do rent out space for the companies that are working with the channel then established companies might still make use of that. Production companies do expand and contract the size of their staffing depending on what productions they have ongoing, and a team working in a programme might benefit being in the same building as their customer
Inspector Sands12,741 posts since 25 Aug 2004
Ever wondered why traditionally most independent production companies are based in the soho/fitzrovia area of London? That's because Channel 4 started in Charlotte Street and so all the new companies supplying it gravitated to the area.

But is that the best model to use? You can only produce programmes if you're able to wine and dine an executive at The Groucho?

I don't quite get your question. That wasn't the case back in the 80s and it's not the model proposed... unless Leeds, Birmingham, Glasgow etc have branches of The Groucho
Hatton Cross2,983 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Central (West) Midlands Today
It might just be the extra news studio of course, which might end up being a green sheet in a cupboard.


Which would make it no different to any 'local tv' channel news studios - when they had them.
Channel 4 don't need to have a race with Made or That's to do things ubercheaply, and make it look horrid on screen.
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Whataday9,148 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
Quote:
Cardiff council to bid for Channel 4 office relocation

Cardiff council will formally bid to host part of Channel 4's business when it relocates from London, BBC Wales has learned.

A letter from its leader to the broadcaster's chief executive confirms it will attempt to secure one of three production centres.

Channel 4 has announced plans to relocate 300 staff and create three hubs outside London.

It will also increase its spending on shows made outside the UK capital.

In the letter, seen by BBC Wales, council leader Huw Thomas said Cardiff "would be delighted to present its credentials" to chief executive Alex Mahon.

Mr Thomas said: "I have no hesitation in taking this opportunity to confirm to you our intention to bid to secure one of the new creative hubs.

"This is based on Cardiff's widely acknowledged strengths as a nationally-significant centre of broadcasting and cultural excellence."

The letter lists qualities including the city's "booming creative industry sector," its comparatively low office rent prices and its expanding population.

It cited BBC Wales' decision to build a new headquarters in the city centre as part of the council's "unrivalled track record of delivering major investment projects, helping deliver outstanding results for organisations wishing to locate in the city".

Cardiff had previously joined the Welsh Government in calling for Channel 4 to move to the city in its response to an initial consultation on relocating the broadcaster's London headquarters.

Productions for Channel 4 have recently been filmed or partly-shot in Wales, including the drama series Kiri starring Sarah Lancashire.

Channel 4 will begin inviting cities to bid to host its new creative hubs from April 2018, with a decision on their locations expected by September.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-43366692