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ttt459 posts since 15 Aug 2015
Probably a slip of the keyboard, but it was Graham Rodgers not Roberts - spot of inter-company confusion there! BTW, the Yorkshire Post used to print schedules for TTT, GRA and BOR, while the West Yorkshire-centric Evening Post had the first two only.


Absolutely, my mistake. Quite a difference in style between the two announcers as well (although by YTV standards Graham Roberts was quite "matey" in style next to Redvers or John Crosse).
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Markymark6,522 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today

I also managed to get a very clear TVS signal on the night of the 1990 Telethon, which I also received on an overnight (with Graham Roberts announcing -- "Late Night Late" was it? -- and I seem to recall him mentioning that people across England were picking the signal up). Again there were no repeats of that.


TVS ended up once, so I'm told, being broadcast overnight on BBC 2 Angus (Fifeshire), and all points north, after BBC 2 had closed down one evening.

BBC 2 Angus had an RBS feed from BBC 2 Craigkelly, which used UHF Ch 27. The same allocation as TVS from Rowridge. There were supposed to be VBI idents to stop that sort of thing happening, buy hey, they didn't always work !!
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Steve in Pudsey9,843 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)

I was watching on Emley, but the reverse could have been the case and they cut to the Belmont feed. Were there split breaks as early as 1983?


Belmont and Emley Moor had separate ITV feeds, split ad spots, 7 minutes of Belmont Calendar and in the '70s the " Belmont Weather Forcast " .... all the way from the Agricultural Hall in Naaridge.

Did C4 ('80s) have split spots between Emley and Belmont? I doubt it, although Belmont was fed by GPO/BT microwave via Farley (**) one assumes that there was only ever one C4 output from YTV Kirkstall Road.

(**) How sure am I about this? Only 50% ITV was always microwave into Belmont, originally ITA RBL via Massingam and Winceby, but then BT from Leeds/Tinshill via an intermediate point to Farley nr Ollerton and then into Belmont. BBC was RBR Emley, but ISTR that changed at some point to give Belmont a cleaner feed free of co-channel interference. Always assumed that C4 was always fed to Belmont via GPO/BT microwave along the same route as ITV, but of-course it may have been RBR Emley?

A while back I posed a question as to how ITV's TCF (derived from Emley) got to Belmont. Someone who knows about these things pointed out that ITV was dual fed out of Leeds, to Emley Moor, where the Belmont feed returned to Tinshill and hence on to Belmont. Perhaps the same was true of C4?


All many years ago of course, but as I think I've mentioned already I'm sure I saw an advert for airtime with Geoff Druett taking about how cheap advertising could be and I'm sure he talked about C4 Belmont packages.

The question about TCF is interesting, I assumed that would have originated at Belmont itself, albeit controlled from Emley ROC.
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Markymark6,522 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today

The question about TCF is interesting, I assumed that would have originated at Belmont itself, albeit controlled from Emley ROC.


I don't think Belmont had a fully equipped control room (with its own slide scanner ?) It did have a control room though, an ex boss of mine was the duty engineer there the evening Emley collapsed. He was told to grab all the staff, and hot-foot it out of there, as a precaution.
TedJrr166 posts since 11 Sep 2005
Anglia (East) Look East

The question about TCF is interesting, I assumed that would have originated at Belmont itself, albeit controlled from Emley ROC.


I don't think Belmont had a fully equipped control room (with its own slide scanner ?) It did have a control room though, an ex boss of mine was the duty engineer there the evening Emley collapsed. He was told to grab all the staff, and hot-foot it out of there, as a precaution.


It was (as you said) a manned station originally. There was a test card, "D" with "ITA Belmont Ch 7" on B7. When E25 opened, it was "IBA Anglia Television", presumably this came from the colour control room at Mendlesham, microwave (BT or IBA?) to Tacolneston (**), then off-air and RBL to Belmont. There was an announcement (or a slide, I can't remember) that said something to the effect that all the frequency gratings on B7 were nonsense because they were broadcasting a converted TCF.

(**) Often wondered about that. While Mendlesham was a CCR (before Croydon ROC subsumed it) Anglia would have passed through it on the way to Tacolneston. The incoming feed must have been GPO/BT, which would originally have been Stoke Holy Cross direct to the Mendlesham mast, rather than via the GPO/BT microwave tower on the other side of the road. The GPO/BT route from Mendlesham to Tacolneston would have been via SHC and then cable via Norwich exchange, so its possible that the ITA had its own microwave line-of-sight direct into the Tacolneston mast?
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Closedown92 posts since 23 Nov 2014
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)


It was (as you said) a manned station originally. There was a test card, "D" with "ITA Belmont Ch 7" on B7. When E25 opened, it was "IBA Anglia Television", presumably this came from the colour control room at Mendlesham, microwave (BT or IBA?) to Tacolneston (**), then off-air and RBL to Belmont. There was an announcement (or a slide, I can't remember) that said something to the effect that all the frequency gratings on B7 were nonsense because they were broadcasting a converted TCF.


Wonderful stuff - it's this sort of recollection that's the highlight of the forum for me.
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