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(October 2007)

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MO
morgaineofevil
Anyone think c4 swill ever get a decent new breakfast show. Its been over 5 years since the big breakfast was put to rest. It would be great to have it back with new presenters!!
PT
Put The Telly On
It'll never happen again. The Big Breakfast style era is long gone sadly.

Nowadays its all budget cuts, music and repeats.

I remember the first time they were thinking of getting rid of the Big Breakfast I thought that would never ever happen as its too popular etc but alas a few years later they put the axe to it. It was a great show though. I remember Mike McLean did an O/B outside my school one morning...I remember seeing it on TV first then turning up for school it was quite bizarre.

As for RI:SE..well that was nothing like TBB. The only thing remotely interesting about that was Mel and Sue.
PC
p_c_u_k
RI:SE was unfortunate. It started out with this lovely ideal of being a nigh-on TV equivalent of Radio 1's Newsbeat, repeating items ad nauseum every 15 minutes. I may have been the only person in the UK who liked it, precisely because of that (I don't wake up half an hour before I go out, I want everything I need to know quickly).

When it 'evolved' into new RI:SE with Iain Lee and Kate Lawler, it was just a sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-Big Breakfast. Awful.

If I remember rightly Channel 4 has admitted breakfast isn't a priority.
AN
all new Phil
RI:SE mk.1 was brilliant, they really should have given it longer to establish itself.
DE
deejay
Well I must have been one of the only viewers of The Channel Four Daily. When it started it consisted of a five minute news summary (from ITN?) then bizarrely a shortened edition of Countdown, sports segments, business news, entertainment news and so on. All very strange and a bit incongruous. There's a good video of the first edition from 1989 on youtube.

ISTR they dropped some of the segments later on and had four or five 'desks' in a studio where individual presenters would do 5-10 minutes each of news, sport, business, entertainment news and so-on. This era IMO worked much better and was the first big TV job for Dermot Murnaghan.
NW
nwtv2003
all new Phil posted:
RI:SE mk.1 was brilliant, they really should have given it longer to establish itself.


Couldn't agree more, it was a simple format of News, Sport and Showbiz, that's what made it different, and to be fair the presenters weren't too bad either.

A Breakfast programme on Channel 4 now would be very unlikely, they're easier sticking to Repeats I'm afraid.
IS
Inspector Sands
deejay posted:

ISTR they dropped some of the segments later on and had four or five 'desks' in a studio where individual presenters would do 5-10 minutes each of news, sport, business, entertainment news and so-on. This era IMO worked much better and was the first big TV job for Dermot Murnaghan.


Yes, most of the non-news segments like Countdown Masters were dropped when the Gulf War started and never re-appeared. IIRC things like Business Daily also moved into the same studio simplfying the programme somewhat.

There's an extended trail for C4D here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1rePDs7lOI which shows all the diffrent segments, presteners and titles sequences which are very late 1980's
DE
deejay
Yuppie TV at it's finest wasn't it?! Seeing it again after all these years makes me think not only of BBC World's mid-90s breakfiller but also "The Day Today"! Once the format was simplified after the gulf war though, and all those elements were brought together into one studio, it became a much more joined-up programme and one I actually quite liked. When the Big Breakfast barged it's way onto the air in it's place it was one hell of a change of pace!
DA
David
nwtv2003 posted:
A Breakfast programme on Channel 4 now would be very unlikely, they're easier sticking to Repeats I'm afraid.


I wonder if (cheaper?) repeats of old episodes of The Big Breakfast would do as well or better than the American repeats they show now. As Channel 4 is 25 soon, it could be a good time for them to find out.
MA
Matt Founding member
davidlees posted:
nwtv2003 posted:
A Breakfast programme on Channel 4 now would be very unlikely, they're easier sticking to Repeats I'm afraid.


I wonder if (cheaper?) repeats of old episodes of The Big Breakfast would do as well or better than the American repeats they show now. As Channel 4 is 25 soon, it could be a good time for them to find out.


I did enjoy the Big Breakfast and also used to like RI:SE Mk.1, but I have to say I quite enjoy the American comedy in the mornings - it's easy and relaxed to wake up to (bar Everybody Loves Raymond, which I detest)
IT
itsrobert Founding member
I don't actually mind Channel 4's current breakfast line-up. It's nice to have some variation from the news of BBC Breakfast and GMTV. Kids have their stuff on BBC Two and Five, so it is nice to have sitcoms as an adult alternative. Sometimes, if it is a slow news day I'll switch over to Channel 4 for Frasier, Everybody Loves Raymond, etc. Big Breakfast was great in its day but I'm not that sorry that it has gone.
JC
JCB
The Big Breakfast is best left dead. It looked dated even in the mid 90's and was only good for about 3 of the 10 years it was on air. The rest of the time was spent recovering from presenter losses and ill thought out revamps. RI:SE Mk1 had a good premise but was poorly executed, which was a shame because it could have actually been really good I thought.

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