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Channel 4 at 25

(September 2007)

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brainiac99
It's a shame they've gone back to their normal presentation today. If they had more 25th birthday programmes this weekend such as Channel 4 at 25 tonight and the Deal or No Deal birthday special (although they are only celebrating their 2nd) then I would have thought they would have kept the blocks idents. Or maybe today they could have shown the circles idents from 1996-99 and then on Sunday, they show the squares idents from 1999-2004 then return to normal on Monday.
GB
GavBelfast
It would have been nice if they could have (somehow) incorporated a clean replay of the actual start of the channel, with the FourScore montage.

The off-air VHS is getting a bit aged.

But, that's a wish, not a grumble, it was a great effort from Channel 4, well done to their presentation team.
JV
James Vertigan Founding member
I would have liked to have seen (or heard) Paul Coia doing some guest continuity into programmes like Countdown...

I agree that the presentation side of things was very good - I could not believe they even went to the trouble of changing the end boards on promos for programmes that are a few days away!

The only thing I wasn't so sure about was the size of the 4 logo on the idents... but I guess that's down to the fact that things are in widescreen these days.
JB
JasonB
Did the full version of FourScore get played out at all yesterday? I also read that David Dundas got paid everytime Channel 4 used his theme, was that the case this time? It was great to see the blocks again.
PC
Paul Clark
Reboot posted:
Paul Clark posted:
BBC2 without any mention or respect scrapped its original 91 '2' more recently....

Of which i still can't see the difference...

Seriously, the change C4 made in going from 3D coloured blocks to a tiny flat white logo in 1996 is far, far bigger than the very slight redraw of the "2", which is lesser than the differences between the hand-fabricated '91 2s.

I understand why you think that, but But you've made a flawed comparison there, and I'll tell you why - pre-1996 the '4' wasn't always 3D and therefore never changed in any real sense by the time the Connections came in; you seem to have forgotten of pres shown around the original idents - a 2D logo of varying colour through the years (from the ident colours to single solid colours) was of course used across that first era on trails, slides, menus, and breakbumpers where applicable - so essentially, it was only its use within the ident that changed in 96 - while its face proportions, which is what defined the shape - have never intentionally been altered.

I shan't go into the evident change re: BBC2 as I've covered such before, but if there's one thing I can state categorically on this, is that BBC2's alteration was a deliberate change of proportions - while C4, having a logo that was both shown in 3D and 2D from the start, has never been modified in such a way. If they did change it, I'd say they'd be fools - but luckily they haven't, and they are all the better for it!

brainiac99 posted:
Or maybe today they could have shown the circles idents from 1996-99 and then on Sunday, they show the squares idents from 1999-2004 then return to normal on Monday.

I reckon that would have truly spoiled us, a bit much perhaps! But what was done yesterday is worthy of much praise; it's a superb example to the other main channels of how a big milestone anniversary celebration can - and IMO should - be done.
RJ
RJH Glover
JasonB posted:
I also read that David Dundas got paid everytime Channel 4 used his theme, was that the case this time? It was great to see the blocks again.


Yep, £3.50 per play. Ditto, shame they're gone.
RU
russnet Founding member
Well twas a good day yesterday and who would think that it would turn out like this was there was worry that Channel 4 itself wouldn't celebrate a thing whilst all it's nostalgic programming moved to More 4.
TV
TVArchive Founding member
Thumbs up to Channel 4 pres for yesterday. Miles better time after time.

BBC/ITV/C5/Sky... take note...
AS
Asa Admin
An absolutely cracking day of continuity yesterday, my Sky+ was in overdrive. There's a thread around here with us hoping for the original idents to make an appearance on its 21st birthday but great to see them (including the obscure ones) four years later.

The effort of doing trailers, font, menus, ECP, idents, breakbumper...all superb. A clock would have topped it off but never mind Very Happy

(Great the guys doing the Paul O'Grady show were not scared to keep the C4 highlight clips during the show in their original ratio too)
TV
TVArchive Founding member
Only problem, is the blatant ignorance of Anne Wood's original Ragdoll creation Pob's Programme.

Where was any reference to this milestone in children's programming?

Oops... just seen the reference on last nights Quiz.... (if I had waited 2 minutes!)
BR
Brekkie
Most things that should have been covered were covered in some context or another.


T4 should be pretty good this month too - it was great this morning to see them back at C4 HQ where they were based a few years ago. And though of course I don't expected Newsnight style interviews, it seemed a waste to get Dean Sullivan and Claire Sweeney in and only talk to them for about two minutes.
JC
JCB
Brekkie Boy posted:
Most things that should have been covered were covered in some context or another.


T4 should be pretty good this month too -


Davina McCall & Steve Jones - the 2 most annoying people on the channel - presenting together !? That's not my idea of good TV *shudders*

Paddy McGuinness & Miquita Oliver is another match made in Hell.

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