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fanoftv
A very well made fake advert, but as said the dog over the image was the giveaway (for us anyway). This is a very good programme looking back over the years; I remember a lot of the early shows vividly.
A Derren Brown live programme always gives me a weird feeling of nerves as a viewer. The stunt later on could be interesting.
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Josh
An unintended advert leading to red number 1...



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Brekkie
C4 will probably end up getting their knuckles wrapped then for that fake advert.
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Neil Jones Founding member
C4 will probably end up getting their knuckles wrapped then for that fake advert.


Contrary to popular belief it is not "illegal" or "against the code" to air fake adverts. This happens all the time in other genres of programming, like comedy for example.

If they were presented and treated as real, then yes we have a problem.
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Josh
That was a bit of a letdown. Entirely predictable. Secretly wanted him to put his hand into the red cup, although he would have dodged that because he's in on the trick.
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JasonB
Josh posted:
That was a bit of a letdown. Entirely predictable. Secretly wanted him to put his hand into the red cup, although he would have dodged that because he's in on the trick.


The last time i saw one of his TV tricks was when he was going to predict the lottery numbers live on tv as the draw was going live and somehow got all numbers right!
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Amber Avenger
Josh posted:
That was a bit of a letdown. Entirely predictable. Secretly wanted him to put his hand into the red cup, although he would have dodged that because he's in on the trick.


The last time i saw one of his TV tricks was when he was going to predict the lottery numbers live on tv as the draw was going live and somehow got all six numbers right!


Haven't seen tonight's show yet so not sure if it's mentioned but Derren has said that's one of his biggest regrets as the "explanatory" show that followed was a huge misdirection and didn't really explain anything and ended up being one of the most misleading things he's done
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james-2001
That whole series he did that followed the lottery numbers was bizarre anyway, especially the finale where he supposedly hypnotised someone, took their money, put it all on routlette at a casino and lost it all (but was only one number off). Was all very obviously staged.
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TVMan
Tonight’s show was very fun and I think it being predictable was the whole point as he was sort of explaining himself and his secrets a bit in the interview segments
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Brekkie
The best thing he did was in his early days when he had the series of half hour shows and basically had someone enter the arcade game they were playing in a pub.
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Jonwo
I'm not so keen on Derren's TV shows but I've seen his most of his live shows and it's a fantastic night out.
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davidhorman

The last time i saw one of his TV tricks was when he was going to predict the lottery numbers live on tv as the draw was going live and somehow got all numbers right!


Spoiler alert for how it was done (it's on-topic for the forum, really):

It was a camera trick. Derren Brown was on one side, a frozen shot of some balls on a rack was on the other. Fake camera motion was added to make it look like less like a splitscreen. After the lottery numbers were drawn, an assistant put the right balls in place and the splitscreen was faded to a fully live shot. The fake motion was already fairly obvious, but one of the balls didn't quite fit in the rack so it shifted position during the fade.

There's a lot less to Brown's effects that he leads you to believe, and personally I find it a lot more disingenuous than standard telly magic - he's effectively claiming special powers that he doesn't really have (at least, not to the degree apparently demonstrated). Just as someone pointed out that it's not against the rules to broadcast a fake advert, it's also not against the rules to say you don't use camera tricks or stooges and then use camera tricks and stooges (e.g. the zombie video game one).

Just read up on tonight's special, didn't watch it, but the probability of anything being left to actual chance is basically zero, however it was arranged.


Anyway, rant over.

The most interesting thing he did, for me, was that special where he ostensibly ruined the guy's day/week via hidden cameras and so on, with each thing voted on by the studio audience, only for it to end when (apparently) the guy got hit by a van in the middle of the road. But that part was a trick on the audience, and a commentary on the cruelty they had happily inflicted on him, up until that point, in the name of entertainment.
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