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A former member
The new look just seem to have fallen apart. There created four good ident yet you never seen them in full...
KU
They don't need to have the Channel 4 100% visible all the time, the C4 blocks are recognisable enough
The idents are fine IMO
The idents are a bit odd because all the other bits of pres suggest that they really want to have the '4' logo showing as much as possible - as a DOG, in the break bumpers, now even on programme titles - but the idents continue the abstract style Channel 4 has been using.
They don't need to have the Channel 4 100% visible all the time, the C4 blocks are recognisable enough
The idents are fine IMO
Last edited by Kunst on 23 June 2018 7:51am
VM
They don't need to have the Channel 4 100% visible all the time, the C4 blocks are recognisable enough
The idents are fine IMO
To clarify, I wasn't saying that it's my opinion the logo should be visible all the time. I was just stating that's what Channel 4 seemingly want to do apart from the actual idents.
The idents are a bit odd because all the other bits of pres suggest that they really want to have the '4' logo showing as much as possible - as a DOG, in the break bumpers, now even on programme titles - but the idents continue the abstract style Channel 4 has been using.
They don't need to have the Channel 4 100% visible all the time, the C4 blocks are recognisable enough
The idents are fine IMO
To clarify, I wasn't saying that it's my opinion the logo should be visible all the time. I was just stating that's what Channel 4 seemingly want to do apart from the actual idents.
EL
It is expected for SD channels that the viewer’s TV/STB will perform the ARC for 4:3 content. SD channels are delivered at 720x576, so delivering 4:3 programmes pillarboxed in a 16:9 image would result in a loss of horizontal resolution compared to source. This also provides backwards compatibility for viewers still with 4:3 TV sets.
In HD, there is no 4:3 standard. Instead such footage is delivered pillarboxed in a 16:9 frame - which is fine as it’s an upscale anyway.
Why is Frasier so badly stretched on channel 4 SD? When I checked to see if it was the came on channel 4 HD the picture is in it's normal 4:3 ratio.
It is expected for SD channels that the viewer’s TV/STB will perform the ARC for 4:3 content. SD channels are delivered at 720x576, so delivering 4:3 programmes pillarboxed in a 16:9 image would result in a loss of horizontal resolution compared to source. This also provides backwards compatibility for viewers still with 4:3 TV sets.
In HD, there is no 4:3 standard. Instead such footage is delivered pillarboxed in a 16:9 frame - which is fine as it’s an upscale anyway.
NG
C4 are correctly broadcasting it flagged as 4:3 - however not all display / receiver solutions handle this properly these days.
It is expected for SD channels that the viewer’s TV/STB will perform the ARC for 4:3 content. SD channels are delivered at 720x576, so delivering 4:3 programmes pillarboxed in a 16:9 image would result in a loss of horizontal resolution compared to source. This also provides backwards compatibility for viewers still with 4:3 TV sets.
In HD, there is no 4:3 standard. Instead such footage is delivered pillarboxed in a 16:9 frame - which is fine as it’s an upscale anyway.
However Sky HD receivers DON'T pillarbox 4:3 SD broadcasts when configured to permanently output HD 720p or 1080i, and as a result Sky HD boxes stretch 4:3 SD broadcasts, correctly flagged by the broadcaster as SD, to 16:9 HD (as there is no 4:3 HD standard)
The only way to get a Sky HD receiver to output SD 4:3 flagged as 4:3 is to run the box in AUTO mode, where it will output 576i (badly) deinterlaced to 576p with an aspect ratio flag... This means you get a flash and a bang when you switch between HD and SD channels, and also when SD channels change aspect ratio.
Even then - on modern TVs it can be tricky to get your TV to switch to a 4:3 pillarbox display mode consistently when it receives a 4:3 flagged SD source.
Also worth remembering that many Freeview broadcasters - including the BBC - permanently broadcast their SD services in 16:9 (the BBC pillarbox 4:3 SD content) but Freeview allows for AFDs (Active Format Descriptors) that mean STBs can switch output modes for 4:3 displays based on the content.
noggin
Founding member
Why is Frasier so badly stretched on channel 4 SD? When I checked to see if it was the same on channel 4 HD the picture is in it's normal 4:3 ratio.
C4 are correctly broadcasting it flagged as 4:3 - however not all display / receiver solutions handle this properly these days.
Why is Frasier so badly stretched on channel 4 SD? When I checked to see if it was the came on channel 4 HD the picture is in it's normal 4:3 ratio.
It is expected for SD channels that the viewer’s TV/STB will perform the ARC for 4:3 content. SD channels are delivered at 720x576, so delivering 4:3 programmes pillarboxed in a 16:9 image would result in a loss of horizontal resolution compared to source. This also provides backwards compatibility for viewers still with 4:3 TV sets.
In HD, there is no 4:3 standard. Instead such footage is delivered pillarboxed in a 16:9 frame - which is fine as it’s an upscale anyway.
However Sky HD receivers DON'T pillarbox 4:3 SD broadcasts when configured to permanently output HD 720p or 1080i, and as a result Sky HD boxes stretch 4:3 SD broadcasts, correctly flagged by the broadcaster as SD, to 16:9 HD (as there is no 4:3 HD standard)
The only way to get a Sky HD receiver to output SD 4:3 flagged as 4:3 is to run the box in AUTO mode, where it will output 576i (badly) deinterlaced to 576p with an aspect ratio flag... This means you get a flash and a bang when you switch between HD and SD channels, and also when SD channels change aspect ratio.
Even then - on modern TVs it can be tricky to get your TV to switch to a 4:3 pillarbox display mode consistently when it receives a 4:3 flagged SD source.
Also worth remembering that many Freeview broadcasters - including the BBC - permanently broadcast their SD services in 16:9 (the BBC pillarbox 4:3 SD content) but Freeview allows for AFDs (Active Format Descriptors) that mean STBs can switch output modes for 4:3 displays based on the content.
JC
Showtime in the US are airing the same trailer. It's thought to be Sacha Baron Cohen's new show. Personally I would prefer Gabbo!
Anyone else seen the trailer for “something huge coming to Channel 4” and they can’t reveal the name of the show or the star? All white text on a black background. It reminds me of Gabbo!
Showtime in the US are airing the same trailer. It's thought to be Sacha Baron Cohen's new show. Personally I would prefer Gabbo!