Who were a watered down IBA. Bring them back I say !
As I mentioned in my post below yours Markymark. They were practically the same people in charge as the final lot in charge of the IBA. The only difference was the change in regulation with thanks to the 1990 Broadcasting Act.
Who were a watered down IBA. Bring them back I say !
As I mentioned in my post below yours Markymark. They were practically the same people in charge as the final lot in charge of the IBA. The only difference was the change in regulation with thanks to the 1990 Broadcasting Act.
On a serious note. I'm doing bits slowly. I think the problem I'm having it with it that I find it to be a bit of a chore to do at the moment. I've done a fair bit behind the scenes but nothing to launch.
Plus I would like to get some partnership deal going with You Tube just in case anyone wants to nick my video content
On a serious note. I'm doing bits slowly. I think the problem I'm having it with it that I find it to be a bit of a chore to do at the moment. I've done a fair bit behind the scenes but nothing to launch.
Plus I would like to get some partnership deal going with You Tube just in case anyone wants to nick my video content
Oh so I see it's taken that long. I do remember your site though, didn't you have the original logos for Carlton, Westcountry & Sunrise (GMTV) on it?
On a serious note. I'm doing bits slowly. I think the problem I'm having it with it that I find it to be a bit of a chore to do at the moment. I've done a fair bit behind the scenes but nothing to launch.
Plus I would like to get some partnership deal going with You Tube just in case anyone wants to nick my video content
Oh so I see it's taken that long. I do remember your site though, didn't you have the original logos for Carlton, Westcountry & Sunrise (GMTV) on it?
Yeah I did. Hand drawn mind you! I can do one better next time round as I've got logos of the 1991 franchise round bidders who didn't make it to the end.
Glad you remember the site as the last time it was updated before it died it's death was back in 2001!
On a serious note. I'm doing bits slowly. I think the problem I'm having it with it that I find it to be a bit of a chore to do at the moment. I've done a fair bit behind the scenes but nothing to launch.
Plus I would like to get some partnership deal going with You Tube just in case anyone wants to nick my video content
Oh so I see it's taken that long. I do remember your site though, didn't you have the original logos for Carlton, Westcountry & Sunrise (GMTV) on it?
Yeah I did. Hand drawn mind you! I can do one better next time round as I've got logos of the 1991 franchise round bidders who didn't make it to the end.
Glad you remember the site as the last time it was updated before it died it's death was back in 2001!
Excellent, I did wonder who the other competitors were. Look forward to seeing it back online
Bear in mind that ten years prior to this, when TSW bought the last five months of the Westward franchise (and the company itself), they were not allowed to use the TSW branding
at all
, and had to broadcast as Westward for the full period. So it can be seen that even in that ten year period, the ITC had brought about a diluted form of regulation compared with the iron fist(!) the IBA had employed.
Your post made me wonder something (not specific to Westward/TSW) but it applies to their situation as well.
How did stations like Westward, ATV, Southern (and a decade or so later TSW, TVS, Thames) promote shows that were due to air after the takeover? For example, how would a show due to be screened in January 1982 (and, in effect, January 1993) be trailed? A generic 'Next Tuesday on ITV' trailer, a trailer metioning no station name at all, or no trailers at all?
I guess the same question would apply to Carlton and HTV prior to the October 2002 rebrand, and to Tyne Tees prior to the relaunch as C3NE.
Over the year as a whole GMTV's programme performance as the national Channel 3 breakfast-time licensee was unsatisfactory. The handover between TV-am and GMTV was smooth in technical terms but the content of the inital service was poor.
GMTV's first year year performance did not match to a significant degree the service promised in the license application. Despite the problems associated with the start of any new service and the unexpected strength of competition from Channel 4 (The Big Breakfast) and notwithstanding the improvements made later in the year, GMTV failed in a number of significant respects to provide the breakfast service it proposed in the application and which the license required.
For 1994, the ITV agreed to a licence variation to take more account of the rolling nature of a breakfast service. In the light of tghe performance in 1993 the ITC has given GMTV a formal warning trhat the licence conditions now applicable to 1994 must be met in full and impovements made in certtain aspects of the service notably in respect of the quality of current affairs and children's programming.
Thanks for uploading that one Russ it does make rather interesting reading, I remember that GMTV weren't popular at all in their first year of broadcasting, and the fact that people did miss Mike Morris believe it or not, as he did a short stint at GMTV in 1993 or 1994.
Just a shame Ofcom cannot do the same today, GMTV has been tat, always has, TV-am was jolly tat and GMTV had to be TV-am to survive, but ended up being alot worse. It's been the same for too long and it just seems to be aimed at one group now rather than trying to do different things.
Bear in mind that ten years prior to this, when TSW bought the last five months of the Westward franchise (and the company itself), they were not allowed to use the TSW branding
at all
, and had to broadcast as Westward for the full period. So it can be seen that even in that ten year period, the ITC had brought about a diluted form of regulation compared with the iron fist(!) the IBA had employed.
Your post made me wonder something (not specific to Westward/TSW) but it applies to their situation as well.
How did stations ... promote shows that were due to air after the takeover? ... I guess the same question would apply to ...Tyne Tees prior to the relaunch as C3NE.
Tyne Tees promoted programmes as on Tyne Tees with the usual silver logo in the corner. I think a line-up for that evening was broadcast at 5.35 before the ITN news, then at 6pm the Channel 3 North East kicked in. Not sure about the other stations.
How did stations like Westward, ATV, Southern (and a decade or so later TSW, TVS, Thames) promote shows that were due to air after the takeover? For example, how would a show due to be screened in January 1982 (and, in effect, January 1993) be trailed? A generic 'Next Tuesday on ITV' trailer, a trailer metioning no station name at all, or no trailers at all?
The problem didn't really exist as such. Self contrained trailers were very rare in 1981. It was more common to promote programmes over slides, or do 'live' trailers when the announcer spoke over the top of unbranded clips from the programme.
Moving on to 1992, trailers might have been common, but it wasn't considered particularly important to brand them with the station name. Usually, the station making the programme would make regional namechecked ones for themselves and occasionally other major regions, and generic ones for everyone else. The smaller stations would either run with that, or else had to bother to make their own regionally branded package, which would rarely happen.
Rather ironically, the *only* time stations were carefully branded 100% with station names only was in the mid-late 90's. Whilst Westcountry of 1997 wouldn't dream of a programme being referred to as anything other than 'on Westcountry', TSW of 5 years previously wouldn't bat an eyelid at something being 'on ITV'.
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I guess the same question would apply to Carlton and HTV prior to the October 2002 rebrand, and to Tyne Tees prior to the relaunch as C3NE.
In more recent times, they simply make different packages to cover 'before' and 'after' promotions - in August 2001 all ITV trailers were made in two versions, one ending in 'on ITV' and the other 'on ITV1'. Similar things happened in October 2002 with trailers made both with and without the blocks device to cover both the deathbed of regional idents and the birth pangs of national branding.
I'm slightly confused about the sudden love for the ITC just because in a report they effectively said 'Isn't it a shame about Central and Westcountry?', and then proceded to do eff all about it. Maybe if they'd put their money where their mouths were, I might have loved them a little bit more.
I'm slightly confused about the sudden love for the ITC just because in a report they effectively said 'Isn't it a shame about Central and Westcountry?', and then proceded to do eff all about it. Maybe if they'd put their money where their mouths were, I might have loved them a little bit more.
No love from me but they were at least a bit better in the early days. Ofcom can't be bothered to take any action until about 100 people complain, even if they know that something in particular shouldn't be broadcast
