Stop it with your absurd obsession with Power Rangers. I'm sure 623058 didn't mean it literally, he meant 'cartoons' in the sense of kids' TV in general.
You seem to be a bully to each and every recent member who is on the forum. You wouldn't dare to say anything against the long-standing members of course...typical
Your post makes little/no sense since Jugalug's joining date is October 05 and saturdaymorning's is July 05...
I could see GMTV changing within the next few years. I think this because that in this day and and age and with the immense compeptition about, and with the declining audience share of ITV as a whole, GMTV just cannot survive as a seperate channel. It only broadcasts for 3 hours and 25 minutes per day, 7 days a week. Within 5 of them the whole slot is taken up by Live content which doesn't come cheap.
They also have to provide a seperate News service, why GMTV can't use ITN is really beyond me, it would make far more better sense financially and for the viewers, if they had a bit of continuity and introduced ITV News branding into the slot.
If ITV can twist Disney's arm into allowing them to use CITV branding and identity during GMTV hours, why can't they do it for the rest of ther service. It just doesn't make sense anymore, why not say '...tomorrow morning on ITV1', rather than '....tomorrow on GMTV'
I think having CITV branding between 6.00am and 9.25am makes far more sense than having two seperate Childrens slots on one channel for the morning. It makes sense to have CITV there from 6.00am to 10.50am (or whenever it ends), rather than GMTV Kids (again I'm unsure of their branding) from 6.00am to 9.25am and CITV from 9.25am to 10.50am.
People on here talk as if something like the 1991 Franchise rounds will happen again, well it won't, simple as. There's no point, ITV's value is nowhere near as valuable as it was in 1991, simply as there was little or no competition, ITV was the only way to make good money through Television at that time. Now any Tom, Dick or Harry with a serious wad of cash can make money from Television.
Whenever GMTV's contract will run out, ITV will probably renegociate with Ofcom to change things and knowing Ofcom they'd agree to it. Or simply Ofcom would extend it.
If ITV don't have 100% control of GMTV by the end of the decade then they should, otherwise it'll be really loss making if they're doing the same things over and over again.
Think how much money they're losing from the Phone In Quizzes...
If I'm not mistaken, the analogue channel ID still says GMTV in the Granada region. At least, it did the last time I checked.
IS the 600s on ITV Teletext still showing GMTV in the header as it use to alternate between the two even after Intelfax pulled out of offering a text service.
So if ITV did have 100% ownership of GMTV and wanted to say move their own airtime a little bit to 9am, they still couldnt do this within negotiating a changed license with OfCom?
The breakfast service 6am-9:25am is not controlled by ITV in the same way as the rest of ITV. To all intents and purposes its a separate station with its own licence which is owned by GMTV Ltd. The only ITV influence in it is that it owns 75% of it, with Disney owning the rest.
Therefore if ITV ("proper" networked ITV1) wanted to start broadcasting at 9am, they would have to seek permission from Ofcom who would have to consult with GMTV Ltd and issue a new licence for GMTV as well as new licences for each of the regional franchises. These days most people aren't aware that GMTV is a separate service, they see it as another programme on ITV.
But that's what I'm getting at - if ITV 100% owned GMTV (bound to happen sooner or later) then GMTV Ltd would be ITV
No it wouldn't - GMTV would merely have ITV plc as a parent company - their franchise would not cease to exist, GMTV would still be bound to provide a service up until 9:25 and the regional franchisee would still start transmission at 9:25.
Only OFCOM can change that. Of course, this is all academic because OFCOM's track record of refusing to stand in the way of ITV plc's business plan means that they would willingly agree to whatever variation ITV plc demand.
As I've said in another friend, it is just not normal business practice for a franchisor to be so ineffective and so unfeared by its franchisees in this way.
OFCOM needs to realise itself that it is in charge and it needs to clamp down on the way ITV plc acts.
The 9.25am junction is so well known I wouldn't have thought they would want to change it, in fact the BBC have been trying to replicate it by pointlessly extending Breakfast to 9.15am on various occasions
Until quite recently ago the analogue channel ID would specifically change to 'GMTV' when they were on (this stopped happening on Westcountry in September 1999, from which point it just said 'Carlton' all the time, but reportedly it carried on in other regions for a good while longer). Right into the late 90's there was also a visible hard switch in and out of GMTV at 6AM and 9:25AM as the transmitter changed source.
The ID switching still happens in Granada, Central and HTV Wales from what I can see, and also the Teletext service title changes to GMTV. At all other times, Granada still reads "Granada Television" whereas Central just reads "itv1" and HTV Wales reads "itv1 Wales"
Until quite recently ago the analogue channel ID would specifically change to 'GMTV' when they were on (this stopped happening on Westcountry in September 1999, from which point it just said 'Carlton' all the time, but reportedly it carried on in other regions for a good while longer). Right into the late 90's there was also a visible hard switch in and out of GMTV at 6AM and 9:25AM as the transmitter changed source.
The ID switching still happens in Granada, Central and HTV Wales from what I can see, and also the Teletext service title changes to GMTV. At all other times, Granada still reads "Granada Television" whereas Central just reads "itv1" and HTV Wales reads "itv1 Wales"
Last time I checked it still does here too. 'GMTV' 6-9.25 and 'Tyne Tees Television' at all other times.
The only serious contraint that might come into play would be SMG getting p***y if ITV tried to put its own branding about.
I thought ITV had bought SMG's stake from them though?
I think what TedJrr was actually getting at was...
If ITVplc owned GMTV outright, and therefore effectively owned the "channel 3 breakfast" licence (for the
whole UK
- even STV and UTV land), and decided to introduce any "ITV1" branding into the 6:00-9:25am slot (which they would be at liberty to do), then SMG might be annoyed that this would mean "ITV1" gets mentioned on channel 3 in central and northern Scotland.
