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Colbert replaces Letterman / Corden replaces Ferguson (April 2014)

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Mr-Stabby
It's funny. 'The Late Late Show' always seems to be ten years behind the times presentation wise. If you look at Craig Ferguson's first show in 2005, with the music, the way the visuals were edited and the design of the set, the show looked as though it had been made in the early to mid 1990s. It was only really when they went HD that the show became vaguely modern looking. Now that new James Corden logo looks like CBS going for what a 'yoof' look would have been in 2004!
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Brekkie
I wonder if anyone will pick it up in the UK?

The late night chat shows (and indeed other than Oprah and Ricki Lake, daytime chat shows) have never really found a home in the UK. Think Letterman may have done the rounds a bit at some point but if they're airing now they're way down the EPG.

Considering late night US TV is still pretty PG I think giving The Late Late Show a try out in a breakfast slot the following morning on C4 example might be worth a shot - certainly no worse than what they've got now.
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noggin Founding member
The US shows have never found an audience in the UK. And lots of channels have tried. I just don't think we 'get' them as a nation - they come over as a bit sycophantic, self-indulgent and a bit... dull... Compare them to Graham Norton and you see the difference.

If anything Craig Ferguson was the one that might have done better than most - but please God don't let us have to suffer James Corden.
London Lite and bilky asko gave kudos
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Inspector Sands
I think it would work better than the past attempts if it was shown, mainly because the UK viewers would come in at day 1 rather than have to work out decades of in-jokes. Also James Corden is probably less American than even Craig Ferguson who I think had been living in the US for a lot longer before he started the show
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A former member
I think it would work better than the past attempts if it was shown, mainly because the UK viewers would come in at day 1 rather than have to work out decades of in-jokes. Also James Corden is probably less American than even Craig Ferguson who I think had been living in the US for a lot longer before he started the show


Details from his book:

From his book, Craig lived for a year in the 80s in New york. Craig got offered a chance to work in the us again around 96/97 and landed work. Craig still travels back and fourth to Scotland. This is where he went after his last show.
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VMPhil
Considering late night US TV is still pretty PG I think giving The Late Late Show a try out in a breakfast slot the following morning on C4 example might be worth a shot - certainly no worse than what they've got now.

I have thought about this before - the Late Late Show is broadcast at 11.30pm Los Angeles time, which is 8.30am UK time. Of course it might be tricky getting the show delivered so it could be broadcast at the same time as the States, but I don't know how hard or easy that is these days. It probably wouldn't help its ratings over here but at least it would be a clever marketing ploy!
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A former member
Considering late night US TV is still pretty PG I think giving The Late Late Show a try out in a breakfast slot the following morning on C4 example might be worth a shot - certainly no worse than what they've got now.

I have thought about this before - the Late Late Show is broadcast at 11.30pm Los Angeles time, which is 8.30am UK time. Of course it might be tricky getting the show delivered so it could be broadcast at the same time as the States, but I don't know how hard or easy that is these days. It probably wouldn't help its ratings over here but at least it would be a clever marketing ploy!


It goes out at 12.30am Eastern or 11.30 central which is only 5 hours behide the UK, so it could be send down the line with a few hours to spare.
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VMPhil
Considering late night US TV is still pretty PG I think giving The Late Late Show a try out in a breakfast slot the following morning on C4 example might be worth a shot - certainly no worse than what they've got now.

I have thought about this before - the Late Late Show is broadcast at 11.30pm Los Angeles time, which is 8.30am UK time. Of course it might be tricky getting the show delivered so it could be broadcast at the same time as the States, but I don't know how hard or easy that is these days. It probably wouldn't help its ratings over here but at least it would be a clever marketing ploy!


It goes out at 12.30am Eastern or 11.30 central which is only 5 hours behide the UK, so it could be send down the line with a few hours to spare.

Yes sorry I meant 12.30pm/9.30am, confused The Late Late Show with The Late Show.
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Inspector Sands
Considering late night US TV is still pretty PG I think giving The Late Late Show a try out in a breakfast slot the following morning on C4 example might be worth a shot - certainly no worse than what they've got now.

Why waste it there though? Getting it sent over, reversioned and ready for air in that sort of turnaround, and that early in the morning won't be cheap.


They'd go to all that effort and expense and get a handful of viewers at 9am, it wouldn't be worth their while
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Brekkie
It would be a tricky turnaround granted, but as history shows they don't really work for UK audiences late at night (and the time difference doesn't help there), and as the breakfast market is very stagnant at the market there could be a selling point in offering something different at that time of day. It's also having a well known British face hosting which would make it more appealing than anything that has preceeded it.

From what I work out the Late Late Show goes out at 5.37-6.35am our time (then rerun in Mountains at 7.37, Wrst Coast at 8.37). I think for it to work at breakfast and not be too early or too late then around 7.30am would be best. It would be risky and could flop completely, but a risk worth taking IMO by C4 (can't see it working anywhere else).

P.S. Looks like the 12.37am start time is standard for the "late late" talk shows in the US - guessing it's all about getting a couple of extra minutes of ads in the earlier talk shows, which themselves start at 11.35pm to give the local news extra ad time.
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paul_hadley
I've never understood why the CBS channels in the UK didn't pick up both shows. I know they're run differently to their US channels but makes sense anyway. CNBC Europe airs The Tonight Show for example.

With regards to watching the show in a morning slot, the old "CBS newsfeed" satellite feed used to be a way of getting it over the air (the feed TV channels used to record to get the show) but that went off years ago IIRC.
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Inspector Sands
It would be a tricky turnaround granted, but as history shows they don't really work for UK audiences late at night (and the time difference doesn't help there), and as the breakfast market is very stagnant at the market there could be a selling point in offering something different at that time of day.

A nice idea but I can't see it doing that well at breakfast, if it would get a small audience in the evening - as all the US chat shows have done in the past - then at breakfast time they'll be even smaller. It certainly wouldn't make money if it was the previous night's episode
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From what I work out the Late Late Show goes out at 5.37-6.35am our time (then rerun in Mountains at 7.37, Wrst Coast at 8.37). I think for it to work at breakfast and not be too early or too late then around 7.30am would be best. It would be risky and could flop completely, but a risk worth taking IMO by C4 (can't see it working anywhere else).

Turning it around in an hour just wouldn't happen, if there's anything that needs removing that's very tight and there'd be no time for a refeed if there's any problems

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