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Colbert replaces Letterman / Corden replaces Ferguson (April 2014)

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DV
DVB Cornwall
These pipe dreams for a UK late night live show are just that. There's no demand post 10.30 Sun-Thurs, most viewers are already thinking of the day ahead and are retiring. Investing the funds to make it happen couldn't be justified by the BBC or Channel 4. ITV might have a stab, but it'd be dominated by in-house guests which wouldn't draw the required audience boost.
NW
nwtv2003
These pipe dreams for a UK late night live show are just that. There's no demand post 10.30 Sun-Thurs, most viewers are already thinking of the day ahead and are retiring. Investing the funds to make it happen couldn't be justified by the BBC or Channel 4. ITV might have a stab, but it'd be dominated by in-house guests which wouldn't draw the required audience boost.


The first run of V Graham Norton on Channel 4 didn't rate too well, most of the time it was on somewhere between 10.30 and 11.30pm, from series 2 onwards they showed it at 10pm it rated better, but the show itself ran on and off for 18 months. Needless to say it's not been done since.

But I think a weekly compilation of Corden's show would work well on Sky1, or even on a Friday or Saturday night 11.30/12am slot on the BBC.
DV
DVB Cornwall
V Graham Norton was a weekly show, not every night. A weekly might work, but we already have that albeit not live, with Norton's BBC effort.
:-(
A former member
V Graham Norton was only a 24 mins programme, but it just felt it was doing the same thing everynight. UK has more daytime/evening daily chat shows compared to the USA.
MO
Mouseboy33
V Graham Norton was only a 24 mins programme, but it just felt it was doing the same thing everynight. UK has more daytime/evening daily chat shows compared to the USA.


interesting....
NW
nwtv2003
V Graham Norton was a weekly show, not every night. A weekly might work, but we already have that albeit not live, with Norton's BBC effort.


So Graham Norton was weekly, V Graham Norton was nightly, but it only ran a few weeks at a time, it was around 2002 to the end of 2003 it was on air for.
IS
Inspector Sands
I know these shows don't rate highly in the UK, but lets face it, the 12:30am shows in the U.S get barely a million viewers, yet they seem to spend a ton of money on them. I genuinely wonder why.

Presumably it's the type of viewers it gets rather than the amount. I'd have thought the regular audience for late night is very different to the daytime or primetime
MO
Mouseboy33
I know these shows don't rate highly in the UK, but lets face it, the 12:30am shows in the U.S get barely a million viewers, yet they seem to spend a ton of money on them. I genuinely wonder why.

Presumably it's the type of viewers it gets rather than the amount. I'd have thought the regular audience for late night is very different to the daytime or primetime


I think i remember reading they pour money into late night to retain those viewers when they click on the telly in the morning... its on the same channel. A few years back on CBS that is the "strategy" they thought would work to retain viewers for their fledgling morning show so they renamed it to bookend the Late Show they named it the Early Show. (lame). But of course Im not sure how much that is a real strategy.

Recent Ratings.
TOTAL VIEWERS

11:35 p.m.-12:35 a.m. ET
NBC “Tonight,” 3.102 million viewers
CBS “Late Show,” 8.663 million viewers *
ABC “Kimmel,” 2.519 million viewers *

12:35-1:05 a.m. ET
ABC “Nightline,” 1.513 million viewers

12:35-1:35 a.m. ET
NBC “Late Night,” 1.364 million viewers *
CBS “The Late Late Show,” 2.123 million viewers

1:35-2:05 a.m. ET
NBC “Last Call,” 0.715 million viewers *

Season Average Viewers
TOTAL VIEWERS

11:35 p.m.-12:35 a.m. ET
NBC “Tonight,” 3.929 million viewers
CBS “Late Show,” 3.007 million viewers
ABC “Kimmel,” 2.696 million viewers

12:35-1:05 a.m. ET
ABC “Nightline,” 1.685 million viewers

12:35-1:35 a.m. ET
NBC “Late Night,” 1.519 million viewers
CBS “Late Late Show,” 1.431 million viewers

1:35-2:05 a.m. ET
NBC “Last Call,” 0.827 million viewers
Last edited by Mouseboy33 on 1 June 2015 7:16pm
EX
excel99
Think you'll find nothing is missing from the CNBC version of The Tonight Show. The missing 15mins removed is all the US commercial breaks.


I think you'll find The Tonight Show airs in a 30 minute slot on CNBC each weekday, which obviously does have some parts of the programme removed.

There are 45 minute weekend editions on CNBC as well, which I presume are unedited
VM
VMPhil
I know these shows don't rate highly in the UK, but lets face it, the 12:30am shows in the U.S get barely a million viewers, yet they seem to spend a ton of money on them. I genuinely wonder why.

Presumably it's the type of viewers it gets rather than the amount. I'd have thought the regular audience for late night is very different to the daytime or primetime


I think i remember reading they pour money into late night to retain those viewers when they click on the telly in the morning... its on the same channel. A few years back on CBS that is the "strategy" they thought would work to retain viewers for their fledgling morning show so they renamed it to bookend the Late Show they named it the Early Show. (lame).

Really? I thought that was a clever idea myself… NBC has Today and Tonight, CBS has Early and Late.
MO
Mouseboy33
Well I guess in theory its a good idea.
NG
noggin Founding member
These pipe dreams for a UK late night live show are just that. There's no demand post 10.30 Sun-Thurs, most viewers are already thinking of the day ahead and are retiring. Investing the funds to make it happen couldn't be justified by the BBC or Channel 4. ITV might have a stab, but it'd be dominated by in-house guests which wouldn't draw the required audience boost.


Didn't Channel 5 try it with The Jack Docherty Show? ISTR it was daily initially, though pre-recorded earlier in the evening rather than being live. I have a dim memory that Graham Norton was a guest presenter on it, before he got his own chat show?

I remember it being one of the better things on Channel 5 when it launched - but that would have been difficult...

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