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Brekkie29,674 posts since 4 Jan 2003
HTV Wales Wales Today
Frankly when it comes to the obvious classics if you're interested chances are you've already seen enough of them to satisfy that interest. I personally like the imports, things like American Ninja Warrior or Aussie Chase/Millionaire, but any new show seems to get a decent slot in the schedule for a couple of weeks and then disappears or gets moved to early mornings/overnight.
Shouldn't that have been posted in the "John Logie Baird has Invented Television" thread?
Juicy Joe1,384 posts since 25 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
I notice Challenge have got their hands on The National Lottery Who Dares Wins - series 1 - which is airing on Saturdays 6pm and Sundays 12pm this weekend. Probably some editing of "The National Lottery" is required but I don't recall this show on Challenge before, certainly not in it's Freeview era. This is nice to see and a welcome addition. Now, how about some more old shows??
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BillyH1,282 posts since 4 Jan 2003
London London
Just saw a few minutes of it, from the first series in 2007. Is it me or does 16:9 SD footage from the 2000s look worse quality than 4:3 SD programmes from the 1990s? Seemed astonishingly blurry for something only a decade old, but maybe I'm just used to widescreen footage being in HD that anything less doesn't look right?
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Johnr358 posts since 6 Apr 2004
It is quite amazing to think Who Dares Wins has been running for 11 years, especially compared to poor Eamonn Holmes who lasted a whole 1 episode across the pond!
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Square Eyes7,526 posts since 31 Mar 2001
And what disregard is given for the show nowadays on BBC One. Who Dares Wins don't really have series runs any more, its shunted around the schedule, dropped from week to week. An episode airs, and then its weeks before another. It appears to just be filler these days.
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DE88533 posts since 8 Jan 2017
UTV Newsline
And what disregard is given for the show nowadays on BBC One. Who Dares Wins don't really have series runs any more, its shunted around the schedule, dropped from week to week. An episode airs, and then its weeks before another. It appears to just be filler these days.


I've said it before and I'll say it again - and no-one has to agree with me on this - I get the impression that the BBC were prepared to drop *all* the Lottery game shows when they stopped broadcasting the draws, and only handed Who Dares Wins a reprieve because of popular demand.
"Channel 5! The channel that brings you England goals!" -- Jonathan Pearce, 31 May 1997
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Brekkie29,674 posts since 4 Jan 2003
HTV Wales Wales Today
And what disregard is given for the show nowadays on BBC One. Who Dares Wins don't really have series runs any more, its shunted around the schedule, dropped from week to week. An episode airs, and then its weeks before another. It appears to just be filler these days.


I've said it before and I'll say it again - and no-one has to agree with me on this - I get the impression that the BBC were prepared to drop *all* the Lottery game shows when they stopped broadcasting the draws, and only handed Who Dares Wins a reprieve because of popular demand.

Or to stop Nick Knowles putting another album out.
Shouldn't that have been posted in the "John Logie Baird has Invented Television" thread?
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DE88533 posts since 8 Jan 2017
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Three other things regarding WDW:

(1) The captions during the contestant introductions used to display the first names and the surnames of the contestants - since 2013 they have displayed only the first names. I'm sure there was a good reason for this change.

(2) In the 2014 series, Hayley and Ranjit named 52 words in "Bohemian Rhapsody". Is there an upper limit for how many answers a team can bid - or could they bid over a hundred if they wanted to (if, of course, the list is big enough)? I assume there's a lower limit; I've never seen a team bid less than five (though I can't say I've watched every episode).

(3) Somewhat remarkably, the record for the most money won continues to be held by Trish and Seamus from the first series in 2007 - £170,000 in eight games. Chrissy and Joe won twelve games at the end of the 2013 series and the start of the 2014 series, yet *only* won £165,000 (giving wrong answers on four of their money lists didn't help). Regardless of the Beeb's treatment of the show, I'd be quite amazed if it ended with Trish and Seamus still the biggest winners...
"Channel 5! The channel that brings you England goals!" -- Jonathan Pearce, 31 May 1997
Hatton Cross2,908 posts since 4 Jan 2003
Central (West) Midlands Today
It is quite amazing to think Who Dares Wins has been running for 11 years, especially compared to poor Eamonn Holmes who lasted a whole 1 episode across the pond!


Although, as you correctly say, the Holmes /Fox network incarnation lasted all of one episode, the series did have one full series on the Game Show Network.

Hosted by Fred Roggin and recorded in Studio 1 at TLS (something the UK show never did) using the UK set, during September 2004. Roggin admitted during a break in recording that he only agreed to do the show as it made for a nice all expenses paid stop over from Athens - where he anchored the NBC Olympic boxing coverage - back home to LA.

Only change (other than dollars in the money list for the head to head winners) was the list of remaining valid answers were only partially displayed, with a verbal prompt to go to the GSN website for the full list of correct answers.
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Larry the Loafer5,301 posts since 2 Jul 2005
Granada North West Today
Not quite understanding Challenge's editing policy today. Decided to stick Family Fortunes on and it's an episode presumably from around the turn of the millennium. The title sequence was halved, all of the contestant introductions were cut... But they've left in a bit where Les and one of the families start singing a Rolf Harris song.

I really do wish they'd just extend the timeslots by 5 minutes if they're so desparate to cram more adverts rather than butchering the programmes.