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NJ
Neil Jones Founding member Central (West) Midlands Today
Johnr posted:
Challenge have randomly switched from Les Dennis to Max Bygraves for the 2pm Family Fortunes slot...having never actually seen them before (apart from a short clip of the 'hilarious' turkey incident) he was a bit...rubbish wasn't he!

Biiiiig money!


Not really his sort of gig, it was another one of those "Bob Monkhouse makes it look so easy" things as well, but then that was Monkhouse's style, everything he did looked so slick, effortless and easy, even when he was on The Golden Shot. Others followed and struggled with that.

Bygraves was better known as a variety performer, singer and actor, presenting game shows wasn't his forte. Family Fortunes was probably the only gameshow he presented in his life, though his IMDb page suggests he appeared on copious other shows as guests, but the bulk of his record is in variety. As Bruce Forysth found out, its easy to get pigeon-holed as a gameshow host if you're not careful.
what, DE88 and Juicy Joe gave kudos
JJ
Juicy Joe Founding member Central (West) Midlands Today
Johnr posted:
Challenge have randomly switched from Les Dennis to Max Bygraves for the 2pm Family Fortunes slot...having never actually seen them before (apart from a short clip of the 'hilarious' turkey incident) he was a bit...rubbish wasn't he!

Biiiiig money!


I think his episodes, although not as polished as Bob Monkhouse or Les Dennis, certainly are an enjoyable watch and Max does a sterling job!! It's great that they're now being shown regularly!!

I hope Challenge show some more classic retro shows soon now that the recent Blankety Blank reruns on Saturdays have ended. Ones which haven't been shown on Challenge for a while, if at all.
SW
Steve Williams
Not really his sort of gig, it was another one of those "Bob Monkhouse makes it look so easy" things as well, but then that was Monkhouse's style, everything he did looked so slick, effortless and easy, even when he was on The Golden Shot. Others followed and struggled with that.


At the time there was a bit of a kerfuffle in the papers because Bob was quoted as saying he wasn't sure Max was quite right for it, although Max later admitted that he probably was the wrong choice, because it was a slick, fast-moving show and at odds with his more relaxed approach as a performer, and he couldn't keep up.

The reason Bob left, as he mentions in his autobiography, is because they did a party to celebrate the hundredth episode, attended by Central's new Head of Light Entertainment Jon Scoffield, and Bob casually said to him "well, here's to a hundred more, eh?", and Scoffield said, "Oh, I doubt it, I think four series is probably enough for this sort of show", and when Bob expressed his surprise that he wasn't even prepared to say there'd be any more shows, Scoffield told him not to "tout for work" as it was "undignified". So Bob asked his agent to look for opportunities elsewhere.

The return of Max also saw the return of William G Stewart as producer, as he'd brought over the format and produced the first series and got a clause in the contract which said he would have first refusal to produce any subsequent series. But he fell out with Bob, who asked for another producer, so it got to the stage where William G was being paid not to produce it. He said this carried on for many years, long after he'd left Central, with every series Central produced they had to offer it to Willam G first or pay him off, until they eventually renegotiated the rights. Apparently his agent phoned up Central every year to say "Anything in this for Bill?".
KE
kernow
I've noticed that there is no longer any "new" Challenge content on Sky catch up, after the last episode of the only content which was on there (Pointless) expired.

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