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Who Goes You Decide (November 2006)

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Brekkie
Jon Snow in the diary room for his preview to C4 News.


CSO I assume, but have any channels gone as far as putting their presenter "at the Big Brother house"?



Also, I think the whole accusations of racism has actually overshadowed the real issue, which is the bullying IMO. Undoubtably language which could be deemed racist has been used, but I don't think it's racially motivated at all.

As the C4 boss said - and Shilpa allegedly - it's about class and culture, issues which crop up (admitedly to a far lesser degree) every year in the show.
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David_02
I'm on the fence at the moment. I feel some of the comments have been a little bit suspect. I know Shilpa has said she doesn't think it's racism, but then she hasn't heard half of what has been said about her. It will be bye bye Jade on Friday though, and the interview will certainly be unmissable.
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gregmc
Brekkie Boy posted:
Jon Snow in the diary room for his preview to C4 News.


CSO I assume, but have any channels gone as far as putting their presenter "at the Big Brother house"?



Also, I think the whole accusations of racism has actually overshadowed the real issue, which is the bullying IMO. Undoubtably language which could be deemed racist has been used, but I don't think it's racially motivated at all.

As the C4 boss said - and Shilpa allegedly - it's about class and culture, issues which crop up (admitedly to a far lesser degree) every year in the show.


Shilpa did think it was racist, until Cleo told her it wasnt. When it blatently is.
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Felek
who could take that statement seriously from C4 with him dressed like that
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markdream
Brekkie Boy posted:
Jon Snow in the diary room for his preview to C4 News.


CSO I assume, but have any channels gone as far as putting their presenter "at the Big Brother house"?


Well the BBC Six were at the front of Elstree Studios last night but they can't really get near the house itself. The best view they'd get is the roof from round the back next to the garden...
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markdream
02cashindavid posted:
I'm on the fence at the moment. I feel some of the comments have been a little bit suspect. I know Shilpa has said she doesn't think it's racism, but then she hasn't heard half of what has been said about her. It will be bye bye Jade on Friday though, and the interview will certainly be unmissable.


Ah but will Davina give her hell? I'd be very shocked and impressed if she did!
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David_02
markdream posted:
02cashindavid posted:
I'm on the fence at the moment. I feel some of the comments have been a little bit suspect. I know Shilpa has said she doesn't think it's racism, but then she hasn't heard half of what has been said about her. It will be bye bye Jade on Friday though, and the interview will certainly be unmissable.


Ah but will Davina give her hell? I'd be very shocked and impressed if she did!


They have to confront the issue. Davina pulled no punches with Makosi and I hope we see something similar this time. Of course she won't accuse her of racism, but I'd like to see her question her behaviour rather than what we saw with Jackiey. I wonder how it's all dealt with tomorrow night? I assume Davina will acknowledge it. I've actually been pleasantly surprised by how BBLB has handled it this week.
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Paul_S_UK
So I take it you're all voting to evict Jade tomorrow night like me?
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Steve in Pudsey
This is a difficult one - it's very easy for a comment made about a person who is in a minority to be interpreted as being motivated by the fact that the person is a member of that minority.

So let's look at some of what has been said. Jackiey referred to Shilpa as "the Indian". Let's assume for the purposes of argument that Shilpa came from Liverpool. Would it have been offensive to have referred to her as "the Scouser"?

We have this comment from Danielle that Shilpa can't speak English properly. If that was directed towards somebody from say Newcastle with a strong Geordie accent would it have been offensive?

For the avoidance of doubt - I don't condone racism in any way, however I do feel very strongly that a situation where you can't criticise somebody who is a member of a minority for fear of being labelled racist/sexist/homophobic/etc is not a situation which I feel is healthy.
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David_02
Paul_S_UK posted:
So I take it you're all voting to evict Jade tomorrow night like me?


Naturally.
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Felek
whatever the 'behaviour' is called, be it racism or not, remember its not just jade. Danielle - well theres no need to explain her but the change in Jo is shocking, also noticed by her former band mate.
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Johnny83
Whether it is racist or not the bullying has been on an shocking level, the fact that someone like Jo who had been bullied is doing it herself now screams of hypocrosy (sp)

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