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JO
Jonathan
trivialmatters posted:
Sorry to post this as my first post, but I'm not a regular here and was compelled to sign up when I read this.

I can't speak for any of the others, but as a personal friend of Jo's, I can assure you she'd be horrified at people suggesting she's racist. I have never once heard or seen racism from Jo.

I saw the video of Jo impersonating Shilpa's voice and I don't think it's racist - most certainly not intentionally . She was pointing out that Shilpa whinges in high pitches tones to get her own way - she was making a point about Shilpa's childish way of talking when she wants something, not her accent in general.

There's a video on Youtube of Jo dressed up as Cleo, and she impersonates her voice there too. Is that racism as well?

Also, if Shilpa had a Newscastle accent, or a Liverpudlian accent, would you be calling Jo racist for imitating it? Jo's had her Essex accent mocked many a time too, so she can take what she dishes out - so to speak.

Jo may not particularly like Shilpa, I can't really speak on her behalf, but I know that if Jo doesn't Shilpa, it's not because Shilpa is Indian.

Secondly, and this is totally my opinion because I don't know Jackiey:

I also saw Jackiey's eviction night, and I'm not convinced that was racism either. Firstly, Shilpa is Indian, so calling her "that Indian" shouldn't be racist. We know Jackiey had problems remembering Shilpa's name, and it's obvious that Jackiey isn't that bright. If Jackiey had been talking about Ian, she could have said "the gay one", or if talking about Leo she could have said "the guy with the curly hair". I don't think she was being racist.

"Indian" is not a racist term.

In regards to her name, "Shilpa" is a name I'd never heard of until Big Brother, and perhaps Jackiey was in the same position. Plus, if she didn't get on with Shilpa, she's unlikely to have spoken to her much in the house. And when they did talk to one another, I doubt she'd have said "Sorry to be rude, I've forgotten your name, could you remind me what it is?"

I used to live with a girl called Evdokiya, and when I first met her it took me at least a week to get her name right. Not because I was being racist, but because it's difficult to pronounce, not a name I'd come across before and I didn't see her that often.

Next you'll be saying Jo isn't self centred or boring at all...?
TR
trivialmatters
Jonathan posted:
Next you'll be saying Jo isn't self centred or boring at all...?


Whether you think she's boring, self centred, bitchy, funny, ugly, good looking... it's irrelevant. Those things are a matter of opinion.

I was posting against the accusation that she's racist, because she is not.
JO
Jonathan
^ Oh I really think she is. Actually, I think there is a secret racist in the house that nobody has spotted.
Shilpa (to Jermaine on the subject of his ex-wife) : Was she black?
Jermaine: Of course

Earlier in the week, Jade asked Jermaine if his parents were both black. His response: ''Of course, one hundred per cent pure.''
Very Happy
BR
Brekkie
They should have placed a cauldron in that lounge tonight!

The only person coming out of this well at all, other than Shilpa, is Cleo. The blokes just haven't got the backbone to step in!
PH
philglossop
Go with that- however, like Ian having been the years bully target, I can see why he's not getting too close- more the ex targets adult tactic of getting on with all (I do it myself) Cleo is actually coming out this really rather well, by being well just Cleo.

Frankly that Danielle,Jo and Jade are hopefully going to rather stupid when it's over, however, I can see Jade in Heat/Hot/OK/Z cele mag with the headline " I'm not racist". Give it 3 weeks.............
TV
tvmercia Founding member
Jonathan posted:
^ Oh I really think she is. Actually, I think there is a secret racist in the house that nobody has spotted.
Shilpa (to Jermaine on the subject of his ex-wife) : Was she black?
Jermaine: Of course

Earlier in the week, Jade asked Jermaine if his parents were both black. His response: ''Of course, one hundred per cent pure.''
Very Happy

and of course there was the "white trash" incident and the numerous times he mentions how shilpa and himself are the only "people of colour"
JO
Jonathan
tvmercia posted:
Jonathan posted:
^ Oh I really think she is. Actually, I think there is a secret racist in the house that nobody has spotted.
Shilpa (to Jermaine on the subject of his ex-wife) : Was she black?
Jermaine: Of course

Earlier in the week, Jade asked Jermaine if his parents were both black. His response: ''Of course, one hundred per cent pure.''
Very Happy

and of course there was the "white trash" incident and the numerous times he mentions how shilpa and himself are the only "people of colour"

Yeh indeed.
In response to a post a few above, I can see the Ok! headline : "The Indian? I thought that was a tube station!''
LU
Luke
to try and put Jermaine's comments into context - unlike here, mixed race marriages are seen as unusual in the US. That would probably explain the "of course" remark.
JO
Jonathan
Luke posted:
to try and put Jermaine's comments into context - unlike here, mixed race marriages are seen as unusual in the US. That would probably explain the "of course" remark.

It's funny you say that because Jade Goody stated on the show that she is of mixed race. I can't really see it, though to an extent anybody is of mixed race to be honest.
TV
tvmercia Founding member
Luke posted:
to try and put Jermaine's comments into context - unlike here, mixed race marriages are seen as unusual in the US. That would probably explain the "of course" remark.


Luke posted:
JCB posted:
Dave Gorman brilliantly brought it up on BBLB yesterday - much to Dermot's embarrassment who was clearly cringing because someone dared to say it. He quickly changed the subject.


yes that was great wasn't it?
it's not the first time racism has reared it's head on the show is it - how comes it never crops up on any other reality TV programme? I suppose it was always a risk when they decided to put people like Jade, (who people forget was repulsive on BB3) and her mother in the house.


its interesting that you chose to view jermaine's remarks in context, whilst not affording the same to jackiey's. in as much as she is ignorant and inarticulate.
TV
tvmercia Founding member
loved jade's eskimo world ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckp-kOldq4U
JO
Jonathan
tvmercia posted:
loved jade's eskimo world ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ckp-kOldq4U

Really? I thought that was bloody ridiculous and playing up to the cameras.

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