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Ceefax - Has It Gone?

Has Ceefax gone or is it still there in some form? (December 2012)

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ST
steddenm
This is what p100 on Ceefax is currently showing...

http://www.ceefax.tv/cgi-bin/gfx.cgi?page=100_0&font=big&channel=bbc1

I thought it had been discontinued?
MA
Markymark
This is what p100 on Ceefax is currently showing...

http://www.ceefax.tv/cgi-bin/gfx.cgi?page=100_0&font=big&channel=bbc1

I thought it had been discontinued?


Oh, Ceefax.tv ? Dial up a news page, and you'll see how old those cached pages are Rolling Eyes
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
This is what p100 on Ceefax is currently showing...

http://www.ceefax.tv/cgi-bin/gfx.cgi?page=100_0&font=big&channel=bbc1

I thought it had been discontinued?


It has, that what you're looking at is heavily out of date and I'll prove it to you.

Look at page 102.3. on Ceefax.tv and take note of the bottom story on that page re: Enid Blyton.

The exact same story on BBC News Online is here...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8361056.stm

Now look at the date stamp at the top of the above BBC News page.
:-(
A former member
Strangely, it is still there on digital satellite: P100 on the BBC News Channel is still broadcasting this very old page -

http://tig.gy/?m=bbcn-ceefax.jpg
GE
thegeek Founding member
It's not gone completely, but you'd be hard pressed to find a way of watching it outwith a BBC building.

I believe the distribution of Presfax still has Ceefax on it, with the content frozen in time from the day of the NI switchover, complete with the shrinking down animation on p100. In TVC, the output of a Presfax decoder appears on the ringmain, so if you're watching it on a teletext-enabled TV, you can browse Ceefax on it.
ST
stevek2
This is what p100 on Ceefax is currently showing...

http://www.ceefax.tv/cgi-bin/gfx.cgi?page=100_0&font=big&channel=bbc1

I thought it had been discontinued?


the time says mon 31 dec 20:41, it's live but an hour fast

strange?
JV
James Vertigan Founding member
I think the Ceefax.TV service originated from Belgium/Holland where BBC1/2 can be viewed on most cable services.
WP
WillPS
This is what p100 on Ceefax is currently showing...

http://www.ceefax.tv/cgi-bin/gfx.cgi?page=100_0&font=big&channel=bbc1

I thought it had been discontinued?


the time says mon 31 dec 20:41, it's live but an hour fast

strange?

The clock is generated by the web server; it's not a live view of a transmission.

I suggest the clock isn't set to allow for daylight savings.
NG
noggin Founding member
Strangely, it is still there on digital satellite: P100 on the BBC News Channel is still broadcasting this very old page -

http://tig.gy/?m=bbcn-ceefax.jpg


Subtitles on DSat for Sky boxes are still carried on p888 in a WST feed. ISTR that some FTA boxes need an index page for this to work - which may explain p100 also being present?

(Freesat boxes use a separate DVB Subtitles stream rather than WST subtitles)
MA
Markymark
I think the Ceefax.TV service originated from Belgium/Holland where BBC1/2 can be viewed on most cable services.


Yes, though the feeds were never the BBC East region. Pre 2003 they were received off air from Dover, so BBC London+SE, then from Yr 2000 BBC South East (from BBC TW). Post 2003, derived from the London/England BBC1/2 D-Sat feeds.

The Ceefax.tv service was either someone in East Anglia, or someone using Sudbury of Taccy off air on the continent.
The +1 time offset implies something 'continental' but I can't think of anywhere on the west coast of Belguim or The Netherlands that could have routinely received analogue from Sud or Taccy ?

ISTR the Beeb tried to get the site shut down. Interesting they never provided their own web portal for Ceefax.
Quite common for Euro PSBs.
JV
James Vertigan Founding member
Ummm.. that's a tough question! Very Happy (From tonight's episode of 'Millionaire') http://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/393065_10152382277710710_1290321308_n.jpg
JA
JAS84
I think the Ceefax.TV service originated from Belgium/Holland where BBC1/2 can be viewed on most cable services.


Yes, though the feeds were never the BBC East region. Pre 2003 they were received off air from Dover, so BBC London+SE, then from Yr 2000 BBC South East (from BBC TW). Post 2003, derived from the London/England BBC1/2 D-Sat feeds.

The Ceefax.tv service was either someone in East Anglia, or someone using Sudbury of Taccy off air on the continent.
The +1 time offset implies something 'continental' but I can't think of anywhere on the west coast of Belguim or The Netherlands that could have routinely received analogue from Sud or Taccy ?

ISTR the Beeb tried to get the site shut down. Interesting they never provided their own web portal for Ceefax.
Quite common for Euro PSBs.
They always considered bbc.co.uk and BBC Red Button to be the replacements. The news articles on Ceefax, for example, were shortened versions of ones from the website, as are Red Button's (which caused a problem on a Newsround article recently because it referred to an image which wasn't there, as Red Button doesn't use pictures).

Aertel, RTE's Teletext service, has a proper online version. It has the digital text layout these days, but used to be (until October 2012 when they had DSO) identical to what you see on analogue TV. http://www.rte.ie/aertel/
http://www.siliconrepublic.com/new-media/item/29876-aertel-to-survive-digital-s

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