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noggin Founding member 12 December 2013 11:30pm

So Three and Four have HD DOG's, so how come there isn't a BBC News HD box when the titles end and the camera starts to pan the newsroom?

The graphics and studio output of BBC News will have been all in HD since the move to New Broadcasting House, so now the SD channel will be a downscaled version of the HD channel.

Basically like BBC One and Two there will only be one version of BBC News, and so adding a HD tag would mean SD viewers would see it too.

So how did Sky News manage to have SD and HD graphic variations on their titles?

Sky decided to invest in multiple Viz engines and multiple studio outputs for their channels. The BBC presumably don't see that as value for money.

VMPhil 14 December 2013 10:03pm

Robert Williams posted:

Bic Basher posted:

Brekkie posted:

Maybe the DOG isn't actually generated by BBC3 but by 60 seconds itself, hence no tag.

I'd agree with that, otherwise the countdown purple bar wouldn't sync with the DOG.

However on BBC Four, they have a very nice discreet DOG.

No change to the DOG on BBC Four SD. If we have to have a DOG, why can't it be as faint as the HD version?

Because of the higher resolution of HD transmissions it makes sense for it to be in the very corner (viewers with overscan on will see it right on the edge of the screen) and doesn't have to be as opaque as it won't get lost in the smudgy-vision that is Freeview SD, especially during fast scenes. This is what BBC One HD did when it launched, and what BBC HD eventually did.

However the fact that BBC Three still has the same size and opacity DOG on its HD counterpart frustratingly renders this argument invalid. I don't know why I expect anything consistent from BBC presentation these days.