A BBC press release, apologies if it has been quoted in another thread, has mentioned that the new CBBC and Cbeebies channels will have their own DOGs.
It also mentions that blocks of childrens' shows will be branded as CBBC on BBC One and Cbeebies on BBC One and Two and will also carry the same branding DOGs... I suppose as CITV are already doing it...
Be interesting to see how the changeover happens during the BBC One weekday afternoons - I guess the opening block of shows for young children will be branded Cbeebies with a changeover to CBBC branding somehow later in the afternoon, as the shows are aimed more at older viewers.
Bloody DOGs! And as always they are experimenting with children to see if they notice. They started cropping with CBBC- probabally got few complaints as childeren are too 'stupid' in the BBC's eyes to notice, so expect that to spread to all BBC 4:3 programming soon, and now DOGs. Again, children are 'stupid' and so they wont notice and again, will spread to all BBC programming.
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My cue to brag and boast!! http://web.ukonline.co.uk/tv.home/forum/emoticons/biggrin.gif I've got an old Children's BBC from Easter 1995, when they used a DOG in the bottom-left corner between programmes. I can't wait to capture it with my forthcoming birthday present!! http://web.ukonline.co.uk/tv.home/forum/emoticons/biggrin.gif I think it was around from 1994-95 and was very much like the BBC1/2 DOGs on trails. But it wasn't axed from bad feedback, no, they just couldn't afford to keep switching DOGs on and off for continuity so they dropped it.
Now they're following CITV's footsteps and dumping the DOG on top of the programmes too... Copycats!
If I remember correctly, the initially used the C H i L D R E N S DOG in the bottom corner. A few days later, it took the shortened term of C H i L , and was more or less in a square box shape. I thought it was on during programmes as well?
I remember the old dog, when they had otis no1. Otis disapeared then returned, he looked different, couldn't put my finger on it. Then about 5 years later I looked back at a video and it was very scary, he talked slow, wasn't ammusing and was presenting with CHRIS JARVIS!!!!!!!
Can anyone remember the summer CBBC studio? It was used in 1994- between the end of the broomcupboard:( and the start of studio 9, which seems to have recived many facelifts over the last 7 years- the best incarnation was the one during 1997 IMO. It was also used sumemr 1995.
I think the idea of shrinking credits to stupidly small sizes (or putting them on monitors in the background) or just not showing them at all was pioneered on Children's TV too. i don't understand the thinking between CBBC and CITV style shrunken on monitored credits. They are very careful to make sure that the entire credits are shown, complete with company logos but yet no one could possibly read them if they wanted to, so whats the point of showing them. And 99% of the time, nothing visually interesting happens on the screen, it's just the presenters standing up and talking (and then stopping and cutting to a trail the instant the credits are finished), so it might just aswell have been a v/o and the credits be left full screen.
As bad as the ITV sidebar credits are, at least you can still read them if you want to. But shrunken credits do seem to serve no useful purpose.
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Ben on 6:07 pm on Jan. 15, 2002
I remember the old dog, when they had otis no1. Otis disapeared then returned, he looked different, couldn't put my finger on it. Then about 5 years later I looked back at a video and it was very scary, he talked slow, wasn't ammusing and was presenting with CHRIS JARVIS!!!!!!!
cwathen on 6:27 pm on Jan. 15, 2002
I think the idea of shrinking credits to stupidly small sizes (or putting them on monitors in the background) or just not showing them at all was pioneered on Children's TV too. i don't understand the thinking between CBBC and CITV style shrunken on monitored credits. They are very careful to make sure that the entire credits are shown, complete with company logos but yet no one could possibly read them if they wanted to, so whats the point of showing them. And 99% of the time, nothing visually interesting happens on the screen, it's just the presenters standing up and talking (and then stopping and cutting to a trail the instant the credits are finished), so it might just aswell have been a v/o and the credits be left full screen.
As bad as the ITV sidebar credits are, at least you can still read them if you want to. But shrunken credits do seem to serve no useful purpose.
I would like ITV and BBC1 to stop using ECPs as they look terrible, but at least BBC1 programmes get to keep their proper credits, albeit very small and left aligned.
I know strictly speaking its not an ECP, but Channel 4 do seem to have at least thought about their banners at the end of a programme.
Producers have to abide by guidelines set by Channel 4, basically stipulating that credits must leave a gap to the right side so that menus or graphics can be superimposed by presentation. In my view, they are good - not too distracting, and sometimes quite useful.
Even the end production credit seems well thought out - the production company on the left, the standardised Channel 4 logo on the right.
Channel 4 is a station which really has sorted its on-screen image out.
